Talk:April 29

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April 29 HMS Endeavour 1770 – On his first voyage, British explorer James Cook and the crew of HMS Endeavour (pictured) landed at Botany Bay, making the first recorded European landfall on the eastern coast of Australia. 1863 – Confederate forts at Grand Gulf survived a bombardment by Union gunboats, preventing Ulysses S. Grant's troops from crossing the Mississippi River at that point. 1903 – A rockslide buried part of the Canadian mining town of Frank under 110 million tonnes of rock, killing around 70 people. 1975 – Vietnam War: North Vietnam concluded its East Sea Campaign by capturing all of the Spratly Islands held by South Vietnam. 2006 – Cyclone Mala made landfall near Thandwe, Myanmar, causing 37 deaths. George Farquhar (d. 1707) Marietta Blau (b. 1894) Giacomo dalla Torre (d. 2020) More anniversaries: April 28 April 29 April 30

Day of Immunology

Why was the international Day of Immunology deleted as a "nonsense holiday" while the international Day of Dance is allowed? Sad mouse (talk) 15:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC) http://www.dayofimmunology.org

The listing for the Day of Immunology did not link to a supporting article. It wasn't nonsense, it was just unsupported - but I can see where the removing editor would call it nonsense since it wasn't mentioned in the linked article. Also, from the link you provide, there is no indication that this event will occur on the same date each year, which is a requirement for listing. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 16:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

They should have assumed good faith, discussed it on this page or looked through my history of editing immunology topics without vandalism. It has been on the same day, April 29th, for the past three years, which seems to fit the requirement for listing. I've added it to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system#History_of_immunology rather than create an entire page for it. Sad mouse (talk) 18:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

If the observance is not notable enough for its own article, it shouldn't be listed here. If something is not supported, it is removed regardless of good faith. Have a look at WP:DAYS. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 18:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

60-70% of global deaths are caused by immune system failure (Cause_of_death), yet you have somehow decided that the Day of Immunology is not notable enough for its own article? Sad mouse (talk) 22:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

It does not matter what I think. No article exists on this subject. If no article exists on this subject, it cannot be notable enough to be included. The minimum criteria for inclusion is that the observance be the subject of an article. That is the only method we have to make sure that everyone's pet holiday is not cluttering up the lists. Doesn't it seem reasonable that we have some minimum standards for inclusion? I encourage you to write an article on the subject. If the article survives as notable, then the observance can be added here. Sounds fair to me and has nothing to do with my opinion of the observance. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t)}

I agree with the OP here. International Dance Day should also be removed. it is not a governmental thing. 2607:FEA8:D5DF:1AF0:89DA:FC2A:283A:498A (talk) 15:06, 29 April 2021 (UTC)— 2607:FEA8:D5DF:1AF0:89DA:FC2A:283A:498A (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

We could extend the list of mountains that Charles Darwin DID NOT CLIMB on this day

For several years, this item ...

• 1834 – Charles Darwin during the second survey voyage of HMS Beagle, ascended Bell Mountain (Cerro La Campana) on 17 August 1834, his visit being commemorated by a memorial plaque.

... has been included in the On This Day page for 29 April. Yet it appears to describe an event that took place over 100 days later in the calendar year. The original editor had dutifully provided their source, so a quick verification check seemed in order.

1. If the source states that Darwin climbed Bell Mountain on 29 April 1834, then change the date in the item's text from August to April.
2. If the source states that Darwin climbed Bell Mountain on 17 August 1834, then move this item in its entirety to the On This Day page for 17 August.
   
   This is what the source actually stated:
   
   
3. Darwin did something else entirely on 29 April 1834
   (and furthermore, he did it somewhere else entirely)

The earth-shattering monumental something-else event turned out to be this:

• On 29 April 1834, Charles Darwin's expedition sees the top of the Andes Mountains from Patagonia

Identifying an uphill horizon as the top of anything at all is inherently problematic in my experience, even when it's just a few hundred metres away. Furthermore, this wasn't something the man himself had necessarily done on his own (or even at all) . It was the expedition's collective eye that had "seen the top". That must have been merely a subjective opinion at the time. Even in hindsight, it is not sufficiently noteworthy to be included On this Day, in my opinion.

So after that dramatic build-up, I ended up just deleting the item.

By the way, the original editor did not make the mistake of mixing up those two dates. The website https://www.onthisday.com/ did that all by itself. His only mistake was trusting that source.

ChrisJBenson (talk) 07:33, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

1975 – Vietnam War: Operation Frequent Wind: The U.S. begins to evacuate U.S. citizens from Saigon before an expected North Vietnamese takeover. U.S. involvement in the war comes to an end.

How in the hell can you end involvement in a war that you are not even a participant in? The U.S. departed in 1973. The only military still in South Vietnam were the Marines at the Embassy. Congress had cut off all funding for bombing missions to support the South Vietnamese government in 1974. U.S. forces took no action when the North invaded the South. The only thing they did was to evacuate people from the country as the South Vietnamese government collapsed and was unable to stop the advance of the North Vietnamese Army. So again, how can involvement in a war end in which you are not even a participant? Logically and factually it as a bogus conclusion and should not be repeated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:A9B0:527F:E0FD:799B:E9F2:8951 (talk) 06:20, 29 April 2022 (UTC)