Talk:CR gas

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I feel rather strongly that chem-stub should be included in this article due to the fact that most of the description is currently a chemical name. Perhaps a resident editor chemist could expand on the nature of CR gas as a chemical without needing to know about its uses as a weapon. --Jemiller226 05:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, for starters, it's not a gas at room temperature! Erf erf erf erf erf!!!

If it was first synthesized in 1962, how can it have been developed in the late 1950s? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.146.147.106 (talk) 02:53, 24 November 2011 (UTC) The paper, describing the synthesis was published in 1962. Usually a paper get's published after the synthesis has been optimized (reaction tempertures, reaction time, chemicals used etc.). This takes some time. And I guess the people working on it did have a rough idea how an effective compound should look like, but getting from a lead compound to the final compound takes even longer. So my guess is the times mentioned are correct, the final product got official in 1962. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.177.22.187 (talk) 15:04, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

use in egypt[edit]

apparently the CR gas has been used in egypt

Guardian article about the use Eeignet (talk) 18:57, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed it has, I added information about this to the page a while back, with a source from a Norwegian news article, published shortly before your link there. Some anonymous Egyptian editor (I looked up the IP's location) since removed that information and added some of its own. Since its information appears valid, but there was no reason to remove the material I added, I re-added it alongside what's been added since then. Perhaps I'm just paranoid, but could the anonymous editor have been affiliated with Egypt's security forces? dalahäst ^(talk) 09:45, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Citations and sources[edit]

Some of the Use examples on this page need rewording and substantiation:

Vietnam: "It has been reported that..." Who reported this? When and how was it reported, and the identity of the substance confirmed?
France: "People occupying an area [...] suspect..." Who are these "people" and what qualifies them as authoritative to identify the substance?
- A Google Translate of the linked source returns only mentions of "tear gas" and "incapacitating green grenades". How would a reader know that this is CR gas and not CS, CN, or something else? This seems like the asserted example isn't in the citation.
- Google Translate may not be terribly useful here, since it returns translations in the article about "angry llama".

As I don't speak French or Vietnamese, I am unsure of where to look for more information to offer an alternative citation. 135.23.43.68 (talk) 19:28, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When it was discovered?[edit]

This reference^[1] said that CR was first synthesized in 1962, but how it was developed by the British Ministry of Defence as a riot control agent in the late 1950s if it was discovered in 1962? --Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 10:16, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Higginbo R, Suschitzky H (1962). "Synthesis of Heterocyclic Compounds. 2. Cyclisation of O-Nitrophenyl Oxygen Ethers". J. Chem. Soc.: 2367–2370. doi:10.1039/jr9620002367.

[higginbo-1] Higginbo R, Suschitzky H (1962). "Synthesis of Heterocyclic Compounds. 2. Cyclisation of O-Nitrophenyl Oxygen Ethers". J. Chem. Soc.: 2367–2370. doi:10.1039/jr9620002367.

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