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Aeneas escaped...:

Probably it is meant that Ascanius escaped.... Andres 17:54, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Italian wars links to wars that began in 1494. Andres 17:54, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

November 21, 2006 This is a direct quote from Livy's work, "After him Silvius, son of Ascanius, born by some accident in the woods, became king. He was the father of Æneas Silvius, who afterward begot Latinus Silvius." The tree at the bottom of the article is a little mixed on this. Sure, Livy says that there is confusion about which Ascanius is from Troy and which is from Aeneas' union with Lavinia, but he goes on to say that those succeeded the throne went from father to son and not half-brother to half-brother. JJones

He was also legendary forefather of the Ascanian ducal family of Anhalt.

Iulus is always 3 syllables, so your assertion that it can be written Julus is probably wrong or perhaps from an unacceptably old-fashioined source. Vince Calegon 12:00, 27 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vince Calegon (talk • contribs)

The reason there is confusion on this is because the other principle source on the Alban line of kings, Dionysius of Halicarnassus in his Roman Antiquities, claimed that Ascanius was the half-brother of Silvius. Psychotic Spartan 123 18:40, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to have a talk[edit]

i had a draft Iulus which was discarded to somebody thinking Iulus was identical to King Ascanius which isn't nessecarily true in my opinion my reason is Ascanius mother may have been Lavinia rather than Creusa who motherd Iulus and in it states that in the article on Julia Gens as well, in my humble opinion they can be considerd seperate figures, but hey that's just me i'd like to see everyone else's two cent's on this issue. Nuclear Dragon (talk) 05:41, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@SpartaN and Markx121993: any comments on Nuclear Dragon's proposal that his draft should become a separate article on Lulus? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 22:25, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's Iulus with a capital "I", in English it's "Julus" with a "J". In the Aeneid it's claimed that Iulus was the namesake of the Iulii, more commonly known as the Julii. Basic information is missing. Why would Lulus with an L be the progenitor of the Julii with a J? SpartaN (talk) 22:34, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that clearification, SpartaN. Nuclear Dragon and I had a discussion about how to spell the name at User talk:Curb Safe Charmer#Why does my draft keep on getting declined? and it is good to be able to settle that issue. My knowledge of the subject is nil, so can you also clear up for me for the purposes of AfC whether Iulus should be the subject of a standalone article, or a redirect? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:11, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually Ascanius might’ve still been Lulus/Julus but also son of Lavinia if the name lulus was mentioned as (possibly) son of Lavinia Emmanuelbruh (talk) 17:54, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest i gave up on creating the article Iulus a while back, to be honest most information that was in the article submission i obtained from a second hand source and when i looked for the first hand sources that my source contained i found no mention of Iulus and Ascanius being half brother's and some of the first hand sources i couldn't even find. Nuclear Dragon (talk) 21:10, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Iulus vs Julus[edit]

Silly question; should it be consistent outside of quotes? Seems like it should, but there might be some style guide thing I’m missing. DalekCheese (talk) 08:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]