Talk:It Happened One Night

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Clarification[edit]

"Claudette Colbert was not enthused by the idea of the film and demanded $50,000 double her normal salary in order to do it. On the set she would show her unhappiness, contrasted with Gable and Capra who enjoyed the making of the film. The film had to be made in four weeks because that was all of the time that Colbert had for the film and even after its finish she had claimed to her friends that it was one of the worst films she had made. After the films great success and some convincing she had shown up at the Oscars and although she did not at first, she went back to the stage and thanks Frank Capra for making the film a success."

Source: Special features, interview with Frank Capra, Jr. on DVD release Columbia TriStar Home Video, c1999. ISBN 076783660X

I don't especially like my prose nor did I know where to insert it. I thought set atmosphere might be useful. --gren グレン 03:00, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jammies[edit]

I once read that this movie also more or less introduced pyjamas tot the masses, because of Claudette Colbert wearing them. Is this true? - Job

Added the Colbert stuff to the new trivia section. As for the pyjamas, it's the first time I've heard it. It would be even harder to substantiate than the undershirt legend. Clarityfiend 19:20, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"I just finished the worst picture in the world."[edit]

This is a good quote and it fits in well with the article BUT it is of no consequence where she happened to be when she said it. It is not a pivotal moment in history. To the anonymous user who keeps insisting on adding that she was in Sun Valley when she said it, please explain how this addition adds to our understanding or places her words into a better historical context. She finished the film and went to Sun Valley for a holiday. While she was there she was reported to have made the comment. As I said in my edit summary, it doesn't matter where she was when she said it - this is pointless, irrelevant trivia. She may have been in Chicago (and I know very well that's not in Sun Valley and vice versa), she could have been in Osaka, and she could have been on the moon - who cares? The words would have been the same and would have had the same meaning. You kept adding it endlessly to Claudette Colbert which is now fully protected. Please stop adding this until you can demonstrate that Sun Valley has some significance. There are other comments in this article - where was Frank Capra when he said "she pouted". Was he also in Sun Valley, Hollywood, Timbuktu, Antarctica.... who cares?? It's only a few words, but those few words shift the emphasis away from what she said to where she said it, as if that has importance. I've explained my reasons for removing the text, you need to be able to give a better reason for reverting it, than you have so far. Rossrs 09:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Casting[edit]

This is a minor point but I do not believe that Carole Lombard was offered the role of Ellie Andrews in It Happened One Night. Here's why. Much has been made of the fact that Lombard and Clark Gable were great lovers and that they only appeared in one film together No Man Of Her Own (1932). If Lombard had come close to appearing Gable in one of the classic films of the time, I would expect it to have been noted in biographies of either Lombard or Gable, and it would been an irresistible snippet of info for them to include. There is no mention of this in Clark Gable by Warren G. Harris, 2002, ISBN 1 85410 904 9 or Gable and Lombard by the same author, 1974, ISBN 0 304 29397 0. It's not mentioned in The Films of Carole Lombard by Frederick W. Ott, 1972, ISBN 0 8065 0278 9, in the quite lengthy biographical section that discusses Lombard's career, including missed opportunities. The possible casting of Myrna Loy, Margaret Sullivan and Miriam Hopkins are mentioned in Inside Oscar by Mason Wiley and Damien Bona, 1987, ISBN 0 0345 344537, without mentioning Lombard. Myrna Loy and Bette Davis discuss/are quoted regarding the possible casting of themselves and others without mentioning Lombard in Being and Becoming by James Kotsilibas-Davis and Myrna Loy, 1987, ISBN 1 55611 101 0 and The Girl Who Walked Home Alone, Bette Davis, A Personal Biography by Charlotte Chandler, 2006, ISBN 0 7432 6208 5.

There are other works that could and should mention this if it was true, but don't, but I think I've cited the main ones. All of these books should have been researched more carefully than the movie divas site which does not state where it drew its information from. I think the most significant point is that the fact that Gable and Lombard never appeared together in a good film (No Man of Her Own is generally considered insignificant to both careers) so if there had been a chance of them appearing together in what became a classic film such as It Happened One Night someone of note would have mentioned it. I'm going to remove it again from the articles in which it appears, and request that it not be added again unless a more reliable source can be provided. Thanks Rossrs 13:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've found a more reliable source regarding Lombard and have added it back into the article along with the source. This contradicts the earlier assertion that she rejected the role, rather the source indicates that she was offered the part but was unable to accept due to the fact she had already committed to beging filming another film. Rossrs 12:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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In Popular Culture[edit]

There's also a scene in the TV show One Day at a Time (1975 TV series) Season 3 Episode 16 (Barbara's Rebellion) where Barbara and Bob spend the night in a hotel and make reference to this movie. — Ched (talk) 00:22, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Billing block[edit]

Am I allowed to add Walter Connolly and Roscoe Karns to the Starring section, since they were third-billed, and fourth billed on the poster, respectively Shahin007h (talk) 14:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Shahin007h: Template:Infobox film says you can. I don't personally like that policy, but the cinema gods won't strike you down if you do. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:52, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Had had?[edit]

This just doesn't sound right. Colbert arrived wearing a two-piece traveling suit which she had had the Paramount Pictures costume designer, Travis Banton, make for her trip. 2604:2D80:5B86:DB00:6FC3:3289:7AFB:AC9E (talk) 03:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The grammar is fine. One of the hads refers to a point further back in time. If you search for "had had", you'll find that it's perfectly acceptable in the right places, and this is one of them. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also see past perfect, which is the verb tense. Dan Bloch (talk) 05:07, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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