Talk:Fran Drescher

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Category[edit]

I notice one of the categories for Fran Drescher's page is "LGBT rights activists from the United States." Is there such a category as "Straight rights activists from the United States?" If so, couldn't these both be considered as "rascism?" And if there isn't one for the "straight" or normal point of sexual orientation, shouldn't there be? Shouldn't Wikipedia be above such rascist squabbles and not show favoritism to one bent over another? HaarFager (talk) 10:09, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

Why is her ethnicity/religion so very prominent? Do we call Charlton Heston a Christian actor? Do we call Al Pacino an Italian actor? -Dante Alighieri 10:08, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Ingrid Bergman is listed as a Swedish actress. And Drescher is kinda prominentely Jewish. BL 10:25, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Ingrid Bergman was from Sweden. Fran Drescher is an American actress. I'm making the change. --Dante Alighieri 10:37, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

While that may be more formal, BL is right in that the fact that Fran Fine and Fran Drescher are Jewish is central to the role, the story and the show's success. And that fact should be mentioned in an encyclopedia article, no? Melody

I have no objection to it being mentioned somewhere in the article, but reread my earlier statement. I think it inappropriate for the subject sentence of the article to read that she is a Jewish author. Just like it might be appropriate somewhere in the Charlton Heston article to refer to his religion, or somewhere in the Al Pacino article to refer to his ethnicity, we can put it somewhere in the article.... just not on the first line. --Dante Alighieri 19:40, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Dresher has made being Jewish an important characteristic of both of her television characters. Henry Winkler is an actor who just happens to be Jewish. Fran Dresher is a Jewish actress. There is a big difference. 65.74.59.37 08:44, 21 January 2006 (UTC)Chani[reply]

Judaism is not a religion, it is a tribe of people. This is why they do not actively recruit--you're either born Jewish, or you aren't. There are specific guidelines in the Talmud and Torah that demonstrate this. If you are born to a Jewish Father by a Goy mother (non-Jew), then you are not Jewish. If you are born to a Jewish mother, then you're a Jew. Trying to make piss-poor analogies to Christians or any other religion doesn't work, as those are simply religions. Christians are a variety of people...black, white, middle eastern, asian, etc. but Judaism is comprised of Jews. Huge difference; should do your research. Fran's character is CLEARLY Jewish in a stereotypical sense...this was not the case with Seinfeld, or other shows where Jews were the primary stars. 192.249.47.11 (talk)

You are rather wrong. Judaism is ALSO a religion - just not merely a religion in the sense of other faiths. It is also not just a tribe, because you CAN join; it's called "converting". Judaism is ALSO composed of many people - black, whites, Asians, middle Eastern. To say that "Judaism is composed of Jews" is just like saying "Xianity is composed of Xians"; there is NOT a "huge difference" in THAT respect - YOU should do a lot more research than you have done. But, to get back to the main point: While I, too, deplore the degradation of Judaism to a mere ethnicity, it's not something I feel can be overcome just yet (Also, "goy" is a noun, not an adjective)FlaviaR (talk) 19:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is (was) the show really so unique in having a Jewish main character? What about Seinfeld, Will and Grace, or Friends? Hmmm... all NBC shows... some conspiracy theorist is gonna have a blast there... --Dante Alighieri 16:48, 13 Sep 2003 (UTC)

We need List of American shows with Jewish main characters :-). And yes I find it strange that there is so very many of them. All the all-afro-american shows are also strange. BL 23:10, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I added it because I read it somewhere, and the point was essentially that the character was overtly Jewish, not just Jewish. That a deliberate point was made of the fact that she was a Jewish woman. Seinfeld is in fact Jewish but does not make an exaggerated point of it in his humour. If you think this distinction isn't pertinant, then change is welcome. Melody

Ms. Drescher isn't the character, though. Ms. Fine is. :D --Thorns Among Our Leaves 02:39, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

True, but Drescher deliberately brought many personal touches to her character, including the names of her own parents, thus blurring the line. She wears her Jewish ethnicity proudly. 65.54.155.58 02:27, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gay Icon Project[edit]

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:28, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Opening Sentence[edit]

The opening sentence is a bit odd and probably needs to be revised. But it won't happen because somebody will delete it.

So how do you think it should read? Wahkeenah 13:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That Voice[edit]

I love Fran's voice. And I'm a white-bread midwesterner. So I added a disclaimer to the comment that while maybe "most" find her voice irritating, "some" find it endearing. 65.54.155.58 02:24, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I find it odd that this article doesn't mention her voice at all. She has the most famous Queens, NY accent in the world. She is well known for her (some would say irritating) voice and accent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.43.243.162 (talk) 22:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't agree more. She's best known as being that shrill, whiny, banshee-like voice from The Nanny. How can this entire article not mention that? And if you need 'a reference' try the title of her damn book "Enter Whining". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.208.225.227 (talk) 03:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The title of her book is already in the article. If you'd like to say anything other than the fact that it is the title of the book, we'll need a reliable source. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 13:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cancer[edit]

She had a guest role on Strong Medicine who dies of cancer that sounded similar to what Dresher had. In the show she was pushing for some medical test for it. 65.74.59.37 08:44, 21 January 2006 (UTC)Chani[reply]

I note that Drescher has become an outspoken advocate for organic (and anti-GM) due to her cancer diagnosis. I don't know if how (or IF) we can put this in but doing some back-of-the-mat calculations, Drescher's diagnosis came at age 41-43 which would put her right into the "at risk" group for uterine cancer^[1]. She also has not had children which also puts her in a higher-risk group. She's also celebrating 17 years clear on Twitter as of a couple of days hence. Given her relatively early diagnosis (based on what we know) survival post-hysterectomy is as close to 100% as you can get from this disease. I know Wikipedia isn't a place for debate but this is something other editors might find interesting since she's using her fame to promote *both* increased awareness (which is a good thing) AND fake/junk science which is a bad one. 81.97.100.208 (talk) 15:54, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Cancer-of-the-uterus/Pages/Causes.aspx

Lawsuit[edit]

"In the late 1990s she was a defendant in a lawsuit, and later dismissed from it. Acerbic comic Dennis Miller remarked that "no one wanted to have to listen to her testify!"" - could someone clarify what this lawsuit was about?!

Probably the one described on this site: [1]

Gentle reminder - this is a talkpage for improvement - not a chat forum[edit]

That is the basis for tonight's revert. Please discuss article improvement not fansite type material. Ronbo76 05:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Additions and Revisions; new photo?[edit]

I have given this page a much needed expansion and revision in some areas. Revised "Return to Television" section; broken up into paragraphs, added additional information about receant appearances. Added "Personal Life" section; some information in other sections was irrelevant and fitted better in this section. Revised and expanded Drescher's television filmography

References are provided in the footnotes and/or available at other mentioned Wikipedia pages.

I also think Drescher's current photograph should be replaced by one that looks slighty more professional or at least nicer.

--59.101.12.2 03:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC) Matthew Traynor[reply]

Fran Dreschers' Rapist[edit]

I believe the line stating that Fran saw her rapist put in jail is incorrect. I watched a recent biography of her on television, and it stated that the men who broke into her apartment were never identified.

Lawsuit comment deleted[edit]

I have deleted the a line from the article stating -- without source -- that she was sued and dismissed from the suit in the 1990s. Such information violates WP:BLP if it is not presented with a source. A related comment by Dennis Miller was also deleted as unsourced. Although there is speculation in a discussion thread above regarding what lawsuit might have been referenced, that's not good enough. 23skidoo (talk) 17:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

autobiography[edit]

This entire article reads like it was written by Fran Drescher. Judging by the state of her career this may be the case, considering all the free time on her hands. 124.170.163.194 (talk) 14:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Meowwwwww! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.229.55 (talk) 11:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

'The Nanny' takes on US diplomacy role?[edit]

Can anybody confirm this AFP news Article http://www.bigpond.com/news/offbeat/content/20080906/2357245.asp claiming that Fran Drescher is going to be a diplomat? Its seems highly unlike to me that such a person could land such a job. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.241.112 (talk) 00:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You kidding me? She's the perfect choice. Bleed their ears with her wretched voice until they agree to any terms and conditions. The perfect diplomat! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.249.47.11 (talk) 16:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Logic[edit]

How can someone "find moderate success" in "memorable" and "signature"/"scene-stealing roles" (see "Early Career and Film Roles")? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.81.156.47 (talk) 08:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism by IP 24.193.73.219[edit]

IP 24.193.73.219 has been vandalizing many musical theatre and performer's articles for months now. The IP was blocked (again) today, for 3 months. IP has developed quite a fascination with Fran Drescher, and in the last set of vandal edits, has put Drescher in several musicals, including Mary Poppins. IP also uses the hoax, non-existent musical "The Billy Murphy Show". I am placing this note here, so that when the IP comes off the block and should he or she start the vandal edits gain, it should be easy to spot: just delete, and place the appropriate warning at the vandal's talk page.JeanColumbia (talk) 00:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alien Abduction[edit]

Fran recently came out yesterday saying that she believed she and her husband were abducted by aliens and implanted with chips. Should this belief be added to her personal life? (MurasakiSunshine (talk) 15:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC))[reply]

What's your source? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:45, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Before anyone yanks this as an unsourced contentious claim about a living person, the story is getting a good bit of coverage: MSNBC, huffingtonpost, Fox, etc. Worth a brief mention, IMO. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe one sentence, being careful to say that "she reported" this or that. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Something like "in an interview, she claimed that her and her husband were 'abducted by aliens'" Seems about right. --129.11.249.180 (talk) 00:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have a source: Australian publication 'mX,' 30 January 2012. Eligius (talk) 14:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(MurasakiSunshine (talk) 03:38, 7 February 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Look![edit]

Rosie O'Donnell's first movie was with Fran Drescher. Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QHVRDUeNB4&feature=related I can't make out the name though. It was in the late 80's early 90s.Entertainer91 (talk) 20:59, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I love Fran too... but...[edit]

I undid the revision done by an anonymous user, it was not sourced, and was just an opinion. The part removed was

"In 2005 The Nanny was named the best show ever."

As much as I loved the show, that seems like a bit of a stretch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmydeandean (talk • contribs) 21:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fight Like Apes[edit]

Irish band Fight Like Apes makes a reference to Fran Descher in their song "Knucklehead." https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Fight-Like-Apes/Knucklehead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn8zgR0w_E — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.53.49.128 (talk) 18:18, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Perpetrator[edit]

Were the perpetrator caught and put into jail?

Filmography[edit]

Articles have listed films that are not released and are in post-production, but it seems weird to list something in Drescher's filmography that hasn't even started production yet. 2603:8001:2A00:7428:FC9A:6977:612E:430F (talk) 20:15, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Eye for an eye(Fran Drescher)" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Eye for an eye(Fran Drescher) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 25#Eye for an eye(Fran Drescher) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 18:30, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

german Name Drescher[edit]

it is a german family name, there were germans in Romania since 12. century ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:FB8:38A6:700:744F:AF41:5A61:E261 (talk) 05:12, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

german ancestors[edit]

her father from poland, but her name Drescher is german! she has german ancestors. 2003:CA:A72F:4900:152E:59E0:D669:6D3A (talk) 06:44, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Cancer-of-the-uterus/Pages/Causes.aspx

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