Talk:Pope Innocent X

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Contradiction[edit]

I just want to point out that there is an apparent anachronism in the first paragraph, where it refers to pope Innocent X as: 'a member of the congregations of the Council of Trent'. This council was held between 1545-1563, whereas this pope was born in 1574! Emmi88 4 April 2007

"Pamphilj!"[edit]

Someone has "corrected" the orthography from the normal Pamphili to Pamphilj. This apparent j is the long i that hasn't been used since the 18th century: it went the way of that long s that makes Greensleeves look like Greenfleaves in books printed before 1750. An even more ancient orthographic affectation we might all revive is ff for capital F, so that we could have Wikipedia headings like ffrench Revolution. --Wetman 14:38, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I changed it after visiting the site Galleria Doria Pamphilj and searching for Pamphilj in the List of Popes. I'll change it back. -- Wgsimon 04:02, 7 Apr 2005 (GMT)

(In spite of my awful behavior? Thanks! I have issues, as you can tell, with a Wikipedia propensity to find the most unusual spelling and adopt it for headings.) --Wetman 03:07, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My source also indicates the terminal "j" --Astrowob 04:04, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

...as in Pompeij— or viij on an antique clock face. --Wetman 10:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm... The 'j' is used in Doria Pamphilj Gallery, and it says on the Palazzo Pamphilj page that "Both spellings Pamphilj and Pamphili are in common Italian usage. Pamphilj however is the preferred spelling of those who bear the name." Really ? .... -- PFHLai 13:51, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

An odd statement, since Italian has no verb for "spelling", using "si scrive" ("it's written") instead—for there is no "spelling" in Italian—the question is really, how many of us know the difference between spelling and orthography? Doubtless many members of the Pamphili family like the look of the long terminal i. In a 16th-century book (in facsimiles of course) just look at their i and j their u and w: Iulius Cæsar" "Eueryman" etc. No problem: just a tiresome little "correction". --Wetman 22:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Wetman, if one day the correcting gets too tiresome, you may want to consider starting the Pamphili page to explain all this orthography stuffs. The Barberini family has a page, anyway. :-) -- PFHLai 18:27, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I did Peruzzi: all the major Italian families should have group entries: sometimes the family is more important than any individual. But I hope that the struggling Wikipedia reader, lips twitching slightly, doesn't make out a papal family that rhymes with "bilge". --Wetman 21:25, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Therapy?[edit]

A Northern Irish rock band named Therapy? have a song named Innocent X which, while named after him is not about him. While I assume this isn't encyclopedia worthy, I thought I'd post it here in case a more knowledgable person than I felt it was 80.6.98.250 21:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

michael[edit]

is there any credence to the claim that the painting of michael expelling satan is a political statement? i'd like to see a citation.--Cwiddofer 06:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Satan has the features of Giovanni Battista Pamphilj. Why do you imagine that's not political? Please state your sources for thinking it's not political? --Wetman 16:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Surname[edit]

What kind of surname is Pamphilj? Badagnani 07:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This explains it. Badagnani 08:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

innocent[edit]

Picture looks good now. Good job. Modernist (talk) 03:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Election" clarification[edit]

This paragraph is oddly worded. As in, I cant figure out what its saying happend or who did what or why it was important. It looks like all the info is there, but the words strung together in the order they appear do not make any of this clear. Id re-write it myself, if i could figure out what it was trying to say. 74.132.249.206 (talk) 06:11, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]