Talk:Fifth-rate

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First paragraph is navigational aid[edit]

Please do not remove the first paragraph as it functions as a quick navigational aid to the other articles in this series. Thank you. Petersam 03:53, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Why not make a template to do that? Loganberry (Talk) 03:54, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

add image[edit]

I replaced the image of the USS Essex with a contemporary picture of the HMS Trincomalee. Unfortunately, while it is a higher resolution, it isn't a side view. However the USN didn't use the same rating system as the RN, so the illustration should be an RN vessel, not a USN vessel.

We have a second image of the HMS Trincomalee, File:HMS Trincomalee.jpg.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 02:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalisation[edit]

It has become apparent that the words "first rate", "second rate", etc have become capitalised over the last year or so. This seems to me to directly contradict the guidance at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters), and I have changed them back again. To clarify, if we were talking about frigates, we would use lower case, because it's not a proper noun; "first rate" is exactly analogous. The usage on Category:Set indices on ships follows the lower case usage almost exclusively, as far as I can tell. Please address any concerns here before making wholesale changes back again.

On another note, some of the hyphenation has been rather patchy. Adjectival use will require a hyphen (first-rate ship) but when used as a noun (first rate), it does not. Again, I've made the changes were I've spotted the need.

Apologies if I've missed any or introduced any errors, since we all err from time to time. Shem (talk) 22:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like, with this reasoning (which I agree with), the article title should be "fifth rate", without a hyphen, as it's not adjectival; it's a noun. Ditto for the other five articles. Regardless, eight-plus years later, the hyphenation is still patchy in each of these articles, and I would personally prefer standardization and consistency of one or the other. 100.40.6.4 (talk) 19:19, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]