Talk:Sri Lankan Civil War

Merge proposal

I propose merging Eelam War I into Sri Lankan Civil War. Much of the content in Eelam War I is found in the Sri_Lankan_Civil_War#Eelam_War_I_(1983–1987) section of Sri Lankan Civil War, hence as is the content is duplicated. Cossde (talk) 03:38, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose For example, the World War II article does not prevent separate specific articles for specific battles or phases of the war. Oz346 (talk) 10:50, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Feel we need separate specific articles for specific battles or phases of the war.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:40, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
• Reply: Agreed on the need to keep a separate article on each phases of the war. However, this article is mear identical to the content on this page. Hence this article needs to be expanded or merged. Cossde (talk) 14:41, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
• We can expand the Eelam War I article there are plenty of sources for the various battles which took in that phase.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:54, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

  How do you propose we do that? Cossde (talk) 23:29, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Adding other supporting countries to the inbox

@M Waleed: and @Lax03333: please read the following discussion, as per updated Wikipedia inbox policies, we do not add all supporting countries to the infobox:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sri_Lankan_Civil_War/Archive_6#The_infobox_%22support%22_section_needs_many_countries_to_be_removed

Oz346 (talk) 23:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Pakistani and Indian troops were actively involved in combat, 20 PAF pilots led a bombing campaign against LTTE in 2008 that's why I think it needs to be placed as a direct combatant. M Waleed (talk) 02:56, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Definitely, Though I think we should place Pakistan under Military Support as to the very top alongside India and Sri Lanka. It wasn't official Pakistani policy they were at war with the LTTE and they weren't officially at war with the LTTE, hence why I would put it under Military Support which includes Israel, Ukraine and the UK which also led controversial bombing campaigns against the LTTE. I do agree with you though Lax03333 (talk) 10:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Military support suggest arms and training going to the LTTE, not the reverse. Oz346 (talk) 14:58, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

2 combat tacticians and explosive trainings were given to LTTE by MILF as the Al Jazeera source mentioned M Waleed (talk) 03:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

The countries listed should be listed under the right categories of their involvement in the defeat of the LTTE, of which they clearly are - Military Support and Arms Suppliers. I find it absurd that historical fact can not be mentioned despite it being common knowledge, there should be no need to narrate a conflict with misconceptions of involvement of countries. There are also reliable references for users to research and explore. The countries listed under Military Support played a huge and pivotal role in the defeat of the LTTE hence they should be listed. Those countries listed had direct involvement and often had a presence in Sri Lanka - UK,Pakistan,Israel and Ukraine etc. These countries help to the military defeat of the LTTE has been acknowledged by Sri Lanka.

In response to the previous comment of the other user, he is correct hence why there is no mention of the countries which had been the host of black market sales to the LTTE as it does not represent the official governments stance on the conflict. Hence why it is simply listed as Black Market. On the contrary, Arms supplies to Sri Lanka and Military Support to Sri Lanka was sanctioned by the Official Goverments each country, many having diplomatic, military and political effects in the conflict and wider.

It would be naive to simply mention India and Sri Lankas involvement in the war without mentioning Pakistans, Israels, Chinas and the UKs involvement which had really major impact of the course of the war.

If none of these countries are mentioned it would not allow people to futher research the involvement of other nations in this conflict thus ignorning a large impacting factor of the war. Users should be free to view the extent of the geopoltics in this conflict then being fed a closed narrative of the war. Lax03333 (talk) 10:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

It is the policy of wikipedia for conflict infoboxes:

Template talk:Infobox military conflict#RfC on "supported by" being used with the belligerent parameter

//Consensus to deprecate. With the strength of argument on both sides being equal we assess consensus by considering the level of support among the community, and in this circumstance there is a clear majority of editors in favor of the proposal.

However, editors must note that this does not constitute a complete ban on such sections in infoboxes, with even some supporters of this proposal noting that in some circumstances the inclusion of such information in an infobox would be warranted.

However, these circumstances would be rare, and considering the clear consensus in this discussion the status quo should be removal; inclusion would require an affirmative consensus at the article.//

If it is to be included then definitely, we would need solid reliable sources. @M Waleed: your last source was neither reliable, nor did it say what you referenced. Oz346 (talk) 14:51, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

It said that explosive trainings and 2 combat tacticians were sent ,for MILF M Waleed (talk) 03:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

that not military support for or going to the LTTE , that's the reverse. If true, the LTTE providing support to MILF. It does not have a place in this info box. Oz346 (talk) 06:26, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Okay but did Libya provide support for LTTE, I couldn't find any suitable reference but in the List of proxy wars , if we see Sri Lankan civil war, Libya is listed as a beligrent on the side of LTTE, could you help in finding a suitable reference M Waleed (talk) 08:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Militant support for LTTE

@Oz346 , I've copied all the references and the militant groups from the article Affiliates to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, if they're not reliable then remove them from there as well. I was just copy pasting from there. Anyways thanks for your contributions M Waleed (talk) 15:02, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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