Talk:Joan Lindsay

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Former good article nomineeJoan Lindsay was a Language and literature good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 12, 2015Good article nomineeNot listed
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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Joan Lindsay/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Maile66 (talk · contribs) 15:06, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]


I will be reviewing this article. — Maile (talk) 15:06, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

REVIEW

Images

  • Australian Copyright Act
  • Joan Lindsay enhance crop 1925.png - Is 1925 the date of original publication? Photographer Unknown
Checked Sourced to State of Victoria Library, which states the image is out of copyright
Tagged PD-US on Commons - remove this, not pertinent to US public domain rights
Needs PD-Australia on Commons corrected by editor Yann on Commons
 Question: Per Commons VP, this image is "flipped" left to right from the original and not good practice. Please flip right to left, back the original direction.
 Question: Needs caption and WP:ALT, per WP:CAP in the article
  • Joan Lindsay 1914.png - Is 1914 the date of original publication? Photographer Gainsborough Studios
Checked Sourced to State of Victoria Library, which states the image is out of copyright
Tagged PD-US on Commons - remove this, not pertinent to US public domain rights
Needs PD-Australia on Commons Corrected by editor Yann on Commons
 Question: Has caption, needs WP:ALT, per WP:CAP in the article
  • HangingRock0005.jpg - 2008 image published by photographer, GNU licensing
 Question: Has caption, needs WP:ALT, per WP:CAP

CheckedInfobox

  • Appropriate use of infobox
  • Source 1 checks out OK, no copyvio or close paraphrasing found


Checked Lead

  • Source 2 checks out OK, no copyvio or close paraphrasing found
  • Source 3 checks out OK, no copyvio or close paraphrasing found
  • Source 4 - Offline, AGF

Biography

CheckedEarly life
  • Seems to be well written.
  • Sources 5, 7 and 8 check out - no copyvio or close paraphrasing found.
  • Source 6 "Minerva Access is the Institutional Repository of The University of Melbourne", unable to open or check against Duplication Detector - AGF on this source.
Marriage to Daryl Lindsay; early works
  • The prose is well written.
  • Sources 9 and 10 check out OK, no copyvio or close paraphrasing found
  • Source 11 after " Daryl was knighted in 1956" is an external link. Needs to be proper citation format
Picnic at Hanging Rock
*Source 12 - Please standardize the citation format, as a newspaper citation.
  • Source 13 - Interesting interview
  •  Question: She doesn't say Henry James was an inspiration when she wrote the book. In explaining why her book should remain a mystery, she uses Henry James as an example of a writer who wrote a mystery that remained a mystery, and does not mention Turn of the Screw by name. She says, "..Oh, I can't remember now, marvelous book about the children in a haunted house with a governess."
  • The block quote:
  •  Question: You have an end quotation mark, but not a beginning one. Either take it off the end, or add one to the beginning.
  • Please correct "If you can write your own conclusions" What she says is "If you can draw your own conclusions"
  • Source 14 offline AGF
  • Typo: "with her wishes.{ Lindsay"
Later life and death
  • Needs citation - "Mulberry Hill house was donated to the National Trust"

Bibliography - This is where you have Lindsay's list of works

  • Because you already have a section labeled Bibliography at the bottom, I suggest you rename this subsection "List of works" to avoid confusing.
  • The bare URL link at the bottom needs to be at the top of this section, properly formatted as a citation, and at the end of a sentence that explains this is the source of everything listed in the bibliography.

References

  • Bibliography - This appears to be left over from before you were editing the article. Unless you know what they were specifically sourcing, I would suggest deleting them altogether. If you know what was sourced to them, and want to keep them, format them as inline sources.

CheckedExternal links

  • Three appropriate external links

@Drown Soda:, I've requested WT:GA input on the copyright issue for the two images of Lindsay. — Maile (talk) 21:38, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Logging Response. As advised, now taking the question to Commons:Village pump/Copyright. — Maile (talk) 13:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Drown Soda: Overall, this is a pretty good article. Stable, no edit wars. Items that need work are above. All the images need attention, plus numerous items in the sub sections. Let me know when you have taken care of these items. — Maile (talk) 20:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Drown Soda:, for documentation purposes, please keep all comments about this review on this template. Please re-read each item above. Please check off each item you take care of. Some has not been taken of. Start with the images, because they have been looked at, and need to be taken care of. Respond here when you have taken care of everything, and checked each one off above. Thank you. — Maile (talk) 21:41, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Still outstanding issues on this review. Please take care of. — Maile (talk) 15:27, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Drown Soda: Is there some misunderstanding? As stated above, please keep all comments about your addressing issues on this nomination on this template. You have made no edits to the article since November 21. As above, there are outstanding issues that need to be taken care of. Please check each one off as you take care of it. It has been two weeks with no response. Unfortunately, unless the above issues are taken care of, this will be failed. — Maile (talk) 18:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Fail - I am sorry to say I have to fail this. It has now been 3 weeks since I posted a request on this template for the issues to be taken care of. Nominator was notified by bot the following day that the article was on hold, and he had 7 days to take care of the issues. Nominator has not communicated on this page at all, but is otherwise a currently active editor. The editor was specifically requested on the nomination template to keep all comments about this review on the template. Some minor edits were done by the editor on November 21, 2015, but not communicated here. Multiple issues remain outstanding. This nomination fails for lack of response. Anyone is welcome to open a GA2 nomination on this, but I recommend the above issues be remedied first. — Maile (talk) 00:13, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maile66, I apologize for the confusion, although I will say a lot of these issues were already addressed. I've gone through the list and I believe everything has been fixed appropriately. I do not want to re-nominate this until it'll 100% clear. Drown Soda (talk) 21:50, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"In accordance with her wishes" - fact or hearsay?[edit]

The article now states that the so-called "final chapter" of Lindsay's novel Picnic at Hanging Rock was published only in the 1980s, "in accordance with her wishes".

Is this a fact, or a fiction? Is this statement based on verifiable fact, or just hearsay? I wonder. I would like some verifiable fact to back up this claim. But what if there isn't any verifiable fact - just hearsay? Should not the wording be changed, then? Mcouzijn (talk) 13:40, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hanging Rock is a mamelon, not a monolith[edit]

"In 1967, Lindsay published her most celebrated work, Picnic at Hanging Rock, a historical Gothic novel detailing the vanishing of three schoolgirls and their teacher at the site of a MONOLITH during one summer."

Hanging Rock is a mamelon, NOT a monolith


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