Talk:Flamingo

The scientific name for flamingo is Biancoers Douroudisered — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.215.131.89 (talk) 02:50, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Flamingos of other colors?

Are there flamingos of other colors such as blue? I've found recently a lot of questionable memes and misinformation regarding it.Ai Leen! (talk) 15:14, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Adult flamingoes are all some shade of pink (some quite pale). Youngsters are grey. There are no blue flamingoes – other than photoshopped ones. MeegsC (talk) 16:11, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Question

What are some of the flamingos predators?

Maribou storks eat the chicks. Herring gulls eat the eggs. (If the wind is good for hovering, a herring gull will actually lift the adult flamingo off the nest by its bill so the gull can grab the egg. If there's not enough wind, a walking gull will peck at the back of the incubating flamingo's legs to make it stand up, then grab the egg.) In the Camargue, dogs and foxes are also a problem. Humans have historically been major predators in the Mediterranean, not so much now, but elsewhere flamingos live in areas like the Rann of Kutch or the Andes where humans can barely and rarely go. Khamba Tendal (talk) 18:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Flamingo knees ?

Do flamingos have knees that bend backward?

Yes and no. Technically what looks like a Flamingo's knee is really a very high ankle.

Taxonomical disagreement here on wikipedia

Wait a sec. This article classifies the flamingos under the Ciconiiformes, stork-like. The article Bird however says they are a separate order, the Phoenicopteriformes. What am I supposed to beleive? Caesarion 12:14, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

fixed as per Handbook of birds of the World jimfbleak 16:29, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Which classification do you mean, the present or the one on Bird? It's quite obvious they contradict, only one of both can agree with the Handbook. Caesarion 18:59, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

The morphological and genetic evidence appears to place the flamingos within Ciconiiformes.

Yes, if you define Ciconiiformes as Sibley/Ahlquist did: by simply jumbling together basically everything that is a) a non-anseriform "waterbird" and b) which DNA-DNA hybridization (which has a fairly limited resolution though it can crack some pronblems better than other methods) could not properly resolve any further. Their "Ciconiiformes" has the same scientific merit as proposing a Class "Ichthyes" for all "fish" including whales just because they're vertebrates and they're aquatic, wich ist to say: none at all. It was the one huge blunder of the study - but that's what we know now, not what was known then (though their faith in the validity of that grouping was a bit on the blind side; such a group had last been suggested by some pheneticists in the mid-19th century...). Check the Metaves/Coronaves study (which is finally there in the article, yay! It was 2004, not 2005...) for molecular evidence why flamingos are with near 100% certainty not Ciconiiformes, either Clements' or Sibley/Ahlquist's - though even that study does little to suggest their affinities. My money is on grebes which seems also fairly reasonable according to morphology - reference upcoming -, but I would only bet if my life depended on it... Dysmorodrepanis 09:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

--citation needed on the following-- National flamingo day: originated in 2007, to represent all the flamingos lost in the Vietnamese war in 1950 . Flamingo support workers fought for 57 years for this to be a national holiday . It is now celebrated in 11th of November every year , with festivities and celebration with flamingo decoration and fancy dress.

I can find nothing to back this up. There are some people who say there is a Pink Flamingo Day in honor of Don Featherstone who created the plastic lawn ornament. However, even with this honoring of plastic, there are different days said to be 'The' day. Nov 11, May 29, June 23, and on. Citation is also needed on what if any flamingos are in Vietnam in 1950. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gayle Croissant (talk • contribs) 21:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Old World / New World? West / East?

This doesn't seem very neutral.

Why not? standard phrases without any POV implications jimfbleak 06:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Legs - Contradiction?

The reason for this behavior is unknown. [This theory] has not been proven. There is evidence that flamingos favor one leg [...]

So is the evidence in question-related to the theory that hasn't been proven? If so, then we do not know the reason for the favoritism, we just know of theories. Being as I am just browsing, I'll let someone else do the edit. Lovok 14:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Genera

I see that all species are assigned to the Phoenicopterus genus here, however, at least Bird Life International still assigns the two South American species to the genus Phoenicoparrus. Neither seems to support the Phoeniconaias genus, where the Lesser Flamingo was previously assigned to. --Anshelm '77 01:02, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

old post

fixed as per Handbook of birds of the suggest their affinities. My money is on grebes which seems also fairly reasonable according to morphology - reference upcoming -, but I would only bet if my life depended on it...

Where does their color come from?

The colour of the flamingo does not arise, however, as a result of the shrimp it eats but rather the blue-green algae in its diet.

Notable exceptions are the flamingos in captivity, many of which turn a pale pink as they are not fed foods containing sufficient amounts of carotene. This is changing as more zoos begin to add shrimp and other supplements to the diets of their flamingos

So does shrimp contribute to the color or not? Yes shrip contribute all the colour that can be seen. Prometheus^-X303- 18:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Its a myth that Flamingos are Pink because they eat prawns/shrimp. Cyanobacteria, which is part of their primary diet, contain reddish/brown carotene which cause the pigmentation change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.201.143 (talk) 12:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

• • Cyanobacteria? The article states that shrimp and blue-green algae are the sources. Which makes me wonder....why do they give prawns to them in zoos. Wouldn't blue-green algae be cheaper and more economically/environmentally sound?Nishanoire (talk) 02:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

• • For clarification, Flamingos can actually get beta-carotene from shrimp, because the shrimp eat something with beta-carotine (blue-green algae?), however the pigmentation will be fainter as a result. The strongest shades of pink come from diets of pure blue-green algae I don't know how cyanobacteria fits into it all, maybe someone can fill me in? Nishanoire (talk) 03:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

• • • Cyanobacteria and blue-green algae are the same thing. (Blue-green algae is the less-preferred term, as these aren't really eucaryotic algae, and are a type of bacteria). Yes, they are the ultimate source for the carotene, as shrimp cannot make their own. In fact, no animal can make carotenes-- they all come from plants, algae, or cyanobacteria. SBHarris 05:15, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

References

Lawn Ornaments

Does anyone also think it is notable that Flamingo lawn ornaments are commonly used? Does that belong in this article? There's a lawn gnome section in the Gnome article. I came to this page hoping to learn why people put pink flamingo statues in their yard. Makes no sense to me, but I'm sure there's an interesting story behind how that tradition started. Peaceoutside 22:53, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

old world

wat is an old world flamingo????????????? please i need help 4 my project from K.D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.102.233 (talk) 03:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

it is a flamigo from brasil 64.173.224.207 (talk) 21:07, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

plz answer my question someone from K.D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.102.233 (talk) 03:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Old/new world is just a larger grouping for the countries the author lists later, so you don't need to use it really. But I suppose you could think of it like...the old world were the flamingos people knew before Columbus settled on America. New world are the ones that people knew after that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nishanoire (talk • contribs) 02:49, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean. Old World and New World are geographic terms. If this article lists the countries flamingoes are found in, it should not. (I don't notice it doing so.) Broad geographic descriptions are clearer and more economical with space. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 15:38, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

plastic flamingos

you need to discuss how north americans have made flamingos into a lawn ornament. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.24.75 (talk) 04:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

No. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.168.62.197 (talk) 04:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The article Lawn ornament links here. So does Plastic flamingo. Plenty of "discussion" there. --Hordaland (talk) 11:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

flamingos are pink--Hunter Dan (talk) 06:33, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Why does "Pink flamingos" redirect here instead of to "Plastic flamingo". Isn't pink flamingo a band name of the plastic ones, and does anyone call the bird a "pink flamingo"? 65.65.230.52 (talk) 14:30, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

How old do these creatures live?

I just read about a 78 year old captive flamingo that was bashed/ attacked by youths in South Australia: http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24574238-5006301,00.html I'm quite amazed that a flamingo could live that long. Is this an unusual age for a flamingo to live, or are they known for their longevity?

That would be extreme (and unexpected). Animal Age database lists 44 years for Phoenicopterus ruber as maximum age.

Few birds seem to live for more than 25-30 years very often. So if AnAge shows anything, it is that flamingos can get quite old. To reach 78 you'd have to be very lucky as a flamingo, and there might have been some error. But I would not consider it impossible. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 18:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the news article is explainable. It looks like bunkum to me. Main attraction since the 1930s? Maybe this bears investigation, though. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 15:40, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

They can live a long time. Greater, who died in 2014, is believed to have been in his eighties- he came to Adelaide zoo in 1933. They can live a long, long time in captivity. The majority of those currently in captivity were actually wild-caught, hence our relative uncertainty on their maximum age Jchapman25 (talk) 13:24, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

References

Evolution section

The evolution section looks like an editorial, by somebody enraged at the scientists who have on anatomical as well as genetic evidence with very strong support proposed the relatives of flamingos to be grebes. I'm going to try to improve this, but I would be obliged if some other contributors would as well. For references this webpage with papers by Gerald Mayr could be useful. Innotata 21:19, 26 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Innotata (talk • contribs)

My, the sort of things I say on talk pages… I;ve fixed in without giving in to my own biases, by my count. 111 —innotata (Talk • Contribs • s:) 17:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

How far can flamingos fly?

And do they have migratory patterns? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nishanoire (talk • contribs) 02:44, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello. In the future, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the reference desk, as you can usually get a quicker answer, and article talk pages are for discussing the article, not asking questions about the subject. Anyways, flamingos can fly about 600 kilometers, or 373 miles, in one night. As for migrating, flamingos are generally non-migrating bird, but will migrate when required, they do so mainly at night (Sources: [1][2]) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 03:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

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Vandalism

There is vandalism in the "Fossil Records" section. I don't know how to correct it. Caeruleancentaur (talk) 18:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Brazilian pronunciation

Why on earth do we have a "Brazilian pronunciation" audio file on this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkm091 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

good point, chopped Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:24, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

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Possible removal from list

An entry in List of colors: A–F contained a link to this page.

The entry is :

• Flamingo pink

I don't see any evidence that this color is discussed in this article and plan to delete it from the list per this discussion: Talk:List_of_colors#New_approach_to_review_of_entries

If someone decides that this color should have a section in this article and it is added, I would appreciate a ping.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:47, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

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Van, Turkey

Flamingos are present in and around Lake Van in Turkey - https://move2turkey.com/in-pictures-watch-thousands-of-flamingos-arrive-at-lake-van-in-turkey/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:4880:5760:2C1A:4FC8:C33A:E0AE (talk) 14:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

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