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Have made several edits to this which do not show up. Be patient - I'll try again when it is responding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamborg (talk • contribs)

And that edit was made way back on 17:48, 22 May 2005. The changes were subsequently made. Williamborg 00:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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There are some nationalist fables here. No reference about the Norwegians (or Swedes?) "collecting taxes from Russians" in Kola. I don't believe that Godunov (who was not a tsar in 1597) asserted that Finnmark was "from ancient times a perpetual patrimony of the Czar". In such cases, the Russian monarchs normally referred to the rights of the Republic of Novgorod, of which the tsar considered himself a sovereign, or "grand prince". --Ghirla^-трёп- 08:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the Danish-Norwegian king maintained a claim on the Kola peninsula up the second half of the 16th Century. The people (mostly Sami) living in the far north were at times taxated by three rulers, the Danish-Norwegian king, the Swedish king and the russian czar. I've studied this at university. Could did up some sources, but I'm unsure were to find English language ones. Manxruler 23:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History is comprised on many nationalistic interpretations (as well as other special pleading). We'll do our best to determine "what to do" to fix the text and "who to blame" (in this case it is indeed Godunov - or perhaps his councilors). See rewrite for more detail with specific references. If it doesn't resolve your concerns, please provide alternate references. Williamborg (Bill) 00:05, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]