Talk:Act of Settlement 1662

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This is my first draft and needs more work. It doesn't explain adequately that the Parliament of Ireland immediately post Restoration had a majority of Puritans and reduced the extent of the King's declaration to Ormond. The Act of Explanation needs a lot more work. --Red King 14:00, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi, have to point out an inaccuracy here. The Act of 1652 doesn't say everyone has to leave eastern Ireland regardless of political or religious affiliation. What is says (paragraphs VI, VII VIII) is that anyone who fought against the parliament would lose some lands.

  • If they surrendered within the time allowed they would be pardoned for their life, but lose up to two thirids of their estates.
  • If they didn't surrender within the time allowed they could stand to lose all their lands and even their lives.
  • If they were "of the Popish religion" and had not taken any part in the wars they would still lose a thrid of their lands unless they had actually fought for the parliament.

In practice Protestant royalists cold avoid confisaction by paying fines, Catholics could not. One other point, the act only applied to landowners. Although some Parliamentarians talked about deported all of the Irish to Connacht, in fact, they only ever got arouind to the land owning class. Jdorney

I think you just volunteered to revise it! (You've already done most of it!) --Red King 14:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

God damn it...!

Ok Jdorney

Great! Now all you have to do is explain what the King promised Ormonde (to request the Act), what was the composition of the Irish Parliamment of the time so they chopped it back, what happened when the Irish Royalists went to Westminster to whinge about not getting the full deal etc etc. :)

--Red King 11:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Holy sh..! What a can of worms! Ok I'll get on it. i'll have to look up some books though Jdorney

Quite! There are various sources on the net, but they contradict each other and sometimes even contradict themselves! And very PPOV too. --Red King 19:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've done some of that work. Couldn't find the exact terms of the act - ie who was named. Most of the info comes from the "Jacobite Ireland". I've also made a start on articles about the earlier colonisation in Turdor re-conquest of Ireland and Plantations of Ireland, both of them still need a bit of work, especially the second one, which only has an intro so far. Jdorney 14:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

That should be Tudor re-conquest of Ireland

Which parliament passed it?[edit]

There is a conflict between this article, under "Background": "When the Long Parliament in London passed the Act of Settlement 1652" and the article by that name ("Act for the Settlement of Ireland 1652") which says: "The act was passed on 12 August 1652 by the Rump Parliament of England" Hedles (talk) 10:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rump Parliament says The Rump Parliament is the name of the English Parliament after Colonel Pride purged the Long Parliament on 6 December 1648 so by 1652 the Long Parliament was defunct. Well spotted. The source was wrong. I shall fix it. --Red King (talk) 18:14, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Unkinde Desertor[edit]

The unkinde desertor by French isn't about the King, it's about the 1st Duke of Ormond.132.230.124.52 (talk) 13:23, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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