Talk:Laser (dinghy)

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Older comments[edit]

Couldn't this be more simply placed at Laser (boat)? Rmhermen 15:38, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)

Originally, I was looking for Laser (sailboat) but it didn't exist. Some more searching led me to Laser (dinghy), which I did a little work on. I created a redirect form Laser (sailboat) to it. As for where it should be placed, I don't know if a sort of convention has been set up with other (dinghy) pages or not. I think most logically it should be under Laser (sailboat). k-links 10:48, Mar 19, 2004

I think it should be Laser (dinghy), to conform with the other dinghies on wikipedia. Etnoy 10:25, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I wonder if the Laser (dinghy) and Laser Radial really should be merged. I think they are distinguised enough to have two different articles, especially now when they are two different olympic classes. Laser 4.7 should also stay. Etnoy 11:15, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Agreed: The laser 4.7 and radial articles are so short. Minnesota1 03:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance this could be merged with Laser II? They are essentially the same boat, but the Laser II has two sails (mainsail and jib). --Asulca593 01:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Laser 2 has a similar brand name, but is a quite different boat. Unlike the original, the Laser 2 has a stayed rig, 2 man crew, trapeze and spinaker.Paulgush 18:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The laser II also has a spinnaker with a launcher tube. It is a completely different boat. Terrillja (talk) 16:34, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trapeze?[edit]

Does the laser have a trapeze? A friend mentioned that it did, but this article makes no mention of such. linas 04:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Laser II has a trapeze, but I'm not sure about the regular Laser. --Asulca593 01:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The standard Laser has no trapeze.Paulgush 18:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Parts of Boat[edit]

I think that the parts of the boat has to be cleaned up. I'll start, but I'm not sure how much I can do. Thanks Tcpekin 23:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did it. Tcpekin 21:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Knot section[edit]

Can someone delete the knot section as it is useless in this article. I'm sure there is a link that could easily sum up all of this writing. Tcpekin 02:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Parts section[edit]

I've modified the section where the centreboard was described as "preventing capsizing". Only weighted centreboards and keels do this. In any dinghy such as the laser, the centreboard function is to minimize side-slip when the boat is subjected to lateral forces, expecially when beating up-wind. Simon Purser 19/2/07

Correct name?[edit]

This edit seems to be indirectly proposing a renaming of the article. Does this edit have consensus? If so, a discussion should begin on moving the article to a new name. If not, the edit should be adjusted. Perhaps some disambiguation is needed as well, to ease confusion between different "laser" boats?--Srleffler 02:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

Would the image depicting the parts of a sail (Image:Parts of a sail.png]) be better if it was replaced by Image:Parts of a Sail.png))? --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 19:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Popular culture[edit]

In the movie "Jaws 2" are any Lasers part of the small flotilla on which the teenagers make a final stand against the monster shark? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.226.104.225 (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Planing[edit]

I changed the section on handling. The boat planes very easily. I am not a great sailor.. I am good but not great, and even just bearing off on a windy day is usually enough to get the boat to mount its own wave and start to haul. I added a picture of me planing by on a reach with the usual spray of water getting everywhere. Craigblock (talk) 02:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rigging details[edit]

Well, after looking at the huge blanking that took place, I went over the article again, and I do agree that there is some stuff that does not belong. Things about learning to play the violin, or the long-winded detail of the function of each sail control shouldn't be in the article. On the other hand, the characteristics of the boat, such as how is behaves because of its unstayed rig, and the fact that the boat is damn fast for a singlehanded cat rigged non-trap boat should be mentioned. It would be better to have a couple of unreferenced statements than to just blank out the whole article and leave it with just a single picture and the numerical specs. And before anyone goes there, no, I do not care to plug the picture I posted. If someone has a clearer, better, faster one, go ahead and post it. The performance of the boat should be mentioned in at least some way though. Craigblock (talk) 17:53, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ideal weight / height for various wind conditions[edit]

do they have a chart anywhere with ideal weight and height for different wind speeds (for racing of course). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.192.141 (talk) 20:42, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

21st century rigging update[edit]

This section should be improved, but removing it without comment is not an option. Maybe a picture wuld be nice here.  Andreas  (T) 12:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to delete photo captioned Sailor hiking out[edit]

I propose that this photograph is deleted from the article for two reasons. Firstly the boat is not sailing hard upwind and does not show a true hiking position/profile. Secondly the article content has to conform to the strict rules of accuracy for an encyclopedia and a poor quality picture of a boat with a sail showing the letter V is not showing an accurate picture of a Laser dinghy which would be appropriate for an encyclopedia. Boatman (talk) 17:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History Section[edit]

The end of the History section references Mark Mendelblatt. I can't actually figure out why he's referenced. The article doesn't reference anyone else who finished in the Pan American Games or the Laser World Championships, including those people who finished in First Place (Mark finished 2nd) and Mark Mendelblatt doesn't seem to have made any other great contributions to the Laser or the sport of Laser racing. Is there a reason he is referenced on the page, while others who finished better than him are not? ETomeny (talk) 19:37, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Agreed. Recommend you go ahead and delete. Boatman (talk) 18:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Litigation[edit]

The litigation section seems to contain a lot of material from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sailnfish123 which is not otherwise known to be in the public domain. Posts from said id don't really look like a diinterested third party to me. Might one suspect Conflict of Interest? 212.159.44.170 (talk) 10:12, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Identification[edit]

The statement "The Laser is unusual in this aspect, since almost every other sailing craft has the numbers assigned by the national organization." "almost every" isn't accurate. There are a good number of other classes that have a single number series globally. Its quite common amongst the more recent classes that have a single manufacturer. 212.159.44.170 (talk) 17:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New page for Laser standard[edit]

I have split the Laser standard content of into another page as this page is pretty general to the three sub types. This was mostly the racing history of the type. I will spend some time redirecting links that should go to the laser standard, but not immediately.Mozzie (talk) 05:31, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

It is way past time that all the unsourced text here should be either sourced or cleaned-up, see WP:V. Does anyone want to tackle this? If not I will. - Ahunt (talk) 00:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - deleted unsourced claims can be reinstated with proper refs cited, see WP:PROVEIT. - Ahunt (talk) 13:53, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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