Talk:Mokichi Okada

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100% wood (talk) 21:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC) Hi, I am going to work on editing this page as part of a school assignment. I am new to wikipedia so my format and writing may not be correct at first so I welcome any suggestions or opinions. This is a link to my sandbox for the article. User:100% wood/Testsp[reply]

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I've heard that Okada made his fortune as a black marketeer during World War II, but I wasn't able to find much raw data amidst the cult propaganda. Any hard references appreciated. Jpatokal 07:09, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC) t In fact Mokichi Okada have never been a black marketeer. On contrary, he was an art collector who prevented many masterpieces of being negotiated in the black market.

In the post war, most traditional families became ruined and national treasures of art begun to be sold to foreigners in the black market. The govern then tried to buy many, but in the postwar Japan was not so rich.

Okada was planning since a long time to build a public museum so he (and many others) begun to buy the masterpieces to prevent the outcome (a tragedy for the japanese culture). Once built the museum, the masterpieces were shown to the public. The MOA Museum of Art was the first public museum in Japan. Danim 17:16, 27 Jan 2006

Mokichi Okada was so feeble while his childhood , and he had experienced the dropout in his schooldays , in Tokyo National University of Fine Arts and Music.Mokichi had his fine judgement sence for arts . His Shodo calligraphy ,"光" was excellent and splendid.Consequently Mokichi had gained fame and wealth. Hence we find the MOA Museum of Art in Atami, Shizuoka. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The DQN,macbeth (talk • contribs) 07:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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POV-check[edit]

A believer may believe, the article is best when reciting in the style of the publications of his church or master. Like "It's believed that during a period of intense spirituality. Mr. Okada received divine revelations ..." or "Mr.Okada learned of Johrei through revelation from God, who commanded him to spread the message ..." and so forth. I understand, the tendency to begin sentences with "Mr. Okada" comes from the respectful japanese hierarchical form "Okada san". Nevertheless, for western culture the article is not bibliographically proven, when the sentences are the same than in the religions press releases. To bring this article to an acceptable level, one can start with the citations about Sekai Kyuseikyo on http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_587.html for example, or with an attempt, to get together a bit of a "Critical Biography" of Okada, and at best, really know about millenaristic movements and about Okadas ideology and praxis of channeling. The writers, or finally the text at least, must abstract from religious or non-religious POV. Otherwise this article should be buried. Read Neutral_point_of_view --Fluss (talk) 00:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the article history, you'll see that there's a slow-motion edit war in progress between User:Shinzenbi and myself, and you saw one of his versions. I'll let you guess which one of us is a church adherent... Jpatokal (talk) 05:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shure, we have individual reasons to be here. It would be nice for everyone, if Mokichi Okada is neither idealized nor incriminated with unproven rumours. If there is a proof or a bibliographical source for his involvement in blackmarket activity, or if there was a public discussion about it, the main proovable facts and trustworthy sources must be named precisely. So i beg you both, to reduce the article to neutral facts of general public interest. The ideological and practical teachings shall be explained from a neutral distance. --Fluss (talk) 06:19, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The black market allegation is from a book that discusses Okada and the MOA Museum in passing, but unfortunately I don't have it on hand and am sure of neither title nor author, so I've removed it from the article. However, I've added the well-cited fact that his "healing centers" were shut down in 1936 for practicing medicine without a license. Jpatokal (talk) 07:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dates need fixing[edit]

How could he start an Ikebana school in 1972 if he died in 1955? 75.61.135.243 (talk) 09:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gasp! You doubt the powers of the almight Meishu-sama?
More seriously, the school appears to have been inspired by him/the MOA movement, not founded by Okada directly. I've fixed the article. Jpatokal (talk) 18:31, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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