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On 11 July 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Cheongnyangni Station. The result of the discussion was Not moved.

In favor of merging[edit]

Since August 2010, the underground and aboveground Cheongnyangni stations have been directly transferrable through a transfer passageway, contradicting Peterhansen2032's argument. As a rule of thumb, on transferrable stations on the Seoul Subway, the information is combined into one, even for stations with different names (e.g. Isu Station, Cheonan-Asan Station). Rather than having to go through a disambiguation page to access information on one of the stations, it would be much more efficient to integrate it into one page for convenient viewing. I support merging. Sungminkwon (talk) 08:46, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Opposition to merger[edit]

According to current Seoul Metropolitan Subway system, this (Cheongnyangni, aboveground) station and C. Underground station should not be merged. As of February 2011, although both of its location is quite near itself with the help of Cheongnyangni Lotte Department Store, however, it cannot transfer directly, so the passenger who use this station strongly demanded more than 10-minute walk across these two stations. Peterhansen2032 (talk) 10:38, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~shut up. are you crazy?~~ now the staion can transfer. it need only 1minute it should be merged. --아사달 (talk) 02:17, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures[edit]

Can someone please replace this old picture with a new one? Cheongnyangni Station no longer looks like what is shown.173.54.13.112 (talk) 10:49, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merged[edit]

Ways for transfer between Line 1 and Jungang Line opened in 2010. Therefore I merged two station to Cheongnyangni Station. Kwj2772 (talk) 13:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 11 July 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) {{replyto|SilverLocust}} (talk) 09:26, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cheongnyangni station → Cheongnyangni Station – Per close to universal usage in news agencies, including the NYTimes, Yonhap, The Korea Times, Maeil Business News, The Korea Herald, etc. :3 F4U (they /it) 03:07, 11 July 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 08:00, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:CONSISTENCY. See Category:Seoul Metropolitan Subway stations and the majority of Category:Railway stations in South Korea. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:13, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Individual Seoul Metropolitan Subway stations generally do not include "station" as part of their name, which means that "station" in the title serves as a descriptor, rather than a part of their proper name. However, for major rail transportation hubs like Cheongnyangni Station, the word "Station" is part of the building's proper name. This capitalization is also backed up by ngram which shows that there are no English-language book sources which use the lowercase spelling. :3 F4U (they /it) 07:06, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:CONSISTENT with all the zillion other station (and transit line, and bus stop, and train route, and etc.) articles that have been moved to lower-case the generic word in the title. It takes little effort to find a news source that use "Cheongnyangni station" lower case [1], and a book doing so [2], and some other material doing likewise (travel writers/sites, businesses that are actually at the station, etc.) [3][4][5][6][7][8], plus some news sources that used both styles in the same article [9][10][11]. One thing I notice in going through this material is that the writers who prefer "Cheongnyangni Station" also tend to capitalize "Station" when mentioning other stations, so they do not support the idea that "Station" is a special style for this particular station (indeed, I found two cases that did the opposite, and lower-cased this one, but capitalized "Yeongju Station", "Gapyeong Station", etc. [12][13]. In short, this seems to be a conflict between [somewhat inconsistently applied] news style and Wikipedia style, and WP is not written in news style as a matter of policy (WP:NOT#NEWS). The vast majority of stations (and lines, and terminals, and ...) are given upper-case treatment in news sources, because such over-capitalization is a newswriting habit, but we don't do it here. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 03:53, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – It's actually easy to find it lowercase in books, even if the 2-gram falls below the threshold to show up in the n-gram viewer. See this search. Dicklyon (talk) 06:47, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per SMcCandllish and Dicklyon. Note that the British railways wikigroup decided a long time ago to downcase. Tony (talk) 07:21, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. As noted, there are sources that downcase, and in general we treat these as descriptive nouns. — Amakuru (talk) 14:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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