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Comments[edit]

Does anyone out there know if the plural of Lord Protector was Lord Protectors or Lords Protector (as in governors-general)? ÉÍREman 00:33 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)

I would tend to say "Lords Protector", but Google only finds 48 examples against 226 "Lord Protectors". I think this may be like an occasion on Who Wants to be a Millionaire where the audience is wrong! :-) -- Arwel 01:03 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)

What about the title "Lord High Protector"? Was it not given to King Richard III? And if so, what differences exist(if any exist at all) between the Lord High Protector and the Lord Protector? Skylord 02:13 Apr 18, 2006 (UTC)

Dates[edit]

Quote: Oliver Cromwell and afterwards his son Richard Cromwell were the Lords Protector of England, Scotland and Ireland during the period 1649 to 1659. (My emphasis)

Although 1649-59 are the dates for the Commonwealth, isn't it the case that Oliver Cromwell did not assume the title Lord Protector until 16 December 1653? -- Picapica 19:38, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You're right, Picapica -- I'll change the article. StockholmSyndrome 17:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"...had in fact produced a repressive crowned republic, fatally unable to bring peace and prosperity back." Is this not something of a value judgement? I could be wrong, but it seems a little partisan

This page has too much interdependencies with other pages, is there a way to clean it up? ISO 8601 15:06Z-7 76.170.117.217 22:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Danish and Swedish[edit]

It seems very dubious to me that the Swedish and Danish terms quoted should be translated in English as "Lord Protector". Is there any actual evidence to support this ?Eregli bob (talk) 12:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Scandinavia[edit]

Neither Swedish "Riksföreståndare" or Danish "Rigsforstander" translates to Lord Protector. In both cases "National Director", or possibly "King's Director" - and the titles were used after a Sovereign's death before his successor was concidered of age. "Riks-" (not "Rix-")/"Rigs-" is genitive of "Rike"/"Rige" and answers to the German word "Reich" (and "Rijk" in Dutch). "Country" would perhaps be the best English translation of that part of the word. While "föreståndare"/"forestander" means "warden", "manager", or "director" or even "principal". The word "Protector" means (in Swedish) "övervakare" (supervisor) , "försvarare" (defender). The Scandinavian "Riksförestånare"/"Rigsforstander" profession or office doesn't equal a rebel like Oliver Cromwell. In my mind, was Oliver Cromwell more close to the French Georges Danton or Maximilien Robespierre or some of the American insurgents. In any case I thik the Scandinavian part ought to be erased, as both translation and office are uncorrect comparissions Boeing720 (talk) 03:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC) I didn't notice the comment above, and since there is no reply during three years, I will remove that part at once Boeing720 (talk) 03:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Plural?[edit]

The lead says "Lords Protectors" but one of the examples says "Lords Protector". Which is correct? 87.75.117.183 (talk) 21:51, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In Fiction[edit]

Despite starting the topic with an in-line reference to the Wikipedia article on The New Statesman TV comedy show starring (the late lamented) Rik Mayall, I cannot find any reference there to any "finale" (should this be "final"?) episode involving possible use of the term 'Lord Protector'. ShropshirePilgrim (talk) 22:42, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]