Talk:Clevedon Court

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Date	Process	Result
June 17, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed
December 6, 2015	Good topic candidate	Promoted

Current status: Good article

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Untitled[edit]

Information here is mainly from the NT guidebook, an old Ward Lock guidebook to Clevedon (which also supplied the picture), and my knowledge of local history and the house (I went to the primary school round the corner and we probably visited it every year). My mother owns a few pieces of Elton ware, which is probably worth its own article. --Andrew Norman 12:03, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What else is needed to get this article to GA?[edit]

What else do people think would be needed to get this article to meet the Good article criteria?— Rod ^talk 18:19, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Clevedon Court/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk · contribs) 12:52, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: none found.

Linkrot: two found and fixed. Jezhotwells (talk) 12:57, 4 June 2013 (UTC) Found and tagged another dead link. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I could only find one tagged deadlink - which I have fixed.— Rod ^talk 21:38, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Checking against GA criteria[edit]

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It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
Generally well written. ~~Could the Interior section be expanded slightly. Perhaps some idea of the layout?Jezhotwells (talk) 13:19, 4 June 2013 (UTC)~~ Done[reply]
Expanded.— Rod ^talk 21:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~"causing national scandal" - I think this would read better as "causing a national scandal".~~ ~~Jezhotwells (talk) 13:23, 4 June 2013 (UTC~~) Done
Changed— Rod ^talk 21:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
ref #3 Annual Archæological Review 2001–2002" - I can find nothing there that supports "but the evidence, based on excavations to the South of the house in 1961/62, is now known to be uncertain.". Perhaps I missed it? Jezhotwells (talk) 13:19, 4 June 2013 (UTC) Done[reply]
I've reworded this as I agree the claim is not fully supported but this seems to be the only reference to Roman remains - its not in more recent sources so I have left the word speculation.— Rod ^talk 21:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ref #13 "Mary Elton Primary School". - There is nothing there to confirm that the school was named after this Mary Elton. I am sure that it was named after her, but we need evidence. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:19, 4 June 2013 (UTC) Done[reply]
New reference which states this.— Rod ^talk 21:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~what makes The Gardening website (ref #38), TourUK (ref #24), Britain's Finest (ref #26) and AboutBritain.com (ref #39) reliable sources? Jezhotwells (talk) 15:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)~~ Done[reply]
Removed/replaced— Rod ^talk 21:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~{http://www.davenapier.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mayors/history1.htm} is a personal website, not RS Jezhotwells (talk) 15:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)~~ Done[reply]
Replaced— Rod ^talk 21:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~same for {http://www.leighrayment.com/baronetage/baronetse.htm} Jezhotwells (talk) 15:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)~~ Done[reply]
Replaced— Rod ^talk 21:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
Broad and of suitable length, focussed. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
NPOV Jezhotwells (talk) 15:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
stable
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
I am worried about the copyright status of File:W Phot c1950.jpg ‎ and File:W Phot c1920.jpg ‎ ands have nomitaed for deletion at commons so that a judgement can be made. Same applies to File:Clevedon Court.jpg Jezhotwells (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC) Well two have been deleted and the other kept so that is now satsfied. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:35, 17 June 2013 (UTC) Done[reply]

If necessary I can replace these with other images - however they do help with the historical perspective which isn't really provided by the other pics in the commons cat.— Rod ^talk 21:29, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Overall:
Pass/Fail:
All good now, I am happy to promote this. Sorry about the delay before getting back to this, real life intervened. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:35, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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