Talk:Abdullah Öcalan

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Source 19 was the equivalent of illuminati lizard people zionist demon taking over the world conspiracy[edit]

Besides the ridiculous back and forth on this page, I wanted to point out that this source, besides being a personal blog, is conspiracy crazy to the nth degree, so I replaced it with the PKK bio.

The former source is claiming a super convoluted theory involving him being a secret Armenian in collusion with CNN, CIA, The Turkish Secret service, and the freemasons. No joke.

Political Prisoner[edit]

So, Abdullah Ocalan has been identified as a political criminal. İs he in prison just for he is communist or something. No he is not. So if he is political prisoner ( while he murdered womans childerens, he doesnt deny it, he raid villages, he kill soldiers, he blow up outposts. No doubt in that ) dthen nazis are meant to be considered as political prisoner (while they kill many people. No doubt in that). They both not political prisoners. They are murdered people. Thats why they punished. And Ocalan punished for his murders and crimes. İf we say " Ocalan is a political prisoner" it will be hypocrasy and a example of unobjektive. While everybody knows that kill people we cant say he is a political prisoners Turkish SpongeBob (talk) 01:15, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He have had this discussion before. As far as I am aware of he was banned from politics for life so he is a political prisoner, not only a political prisoner, but also. Then a politician from the Turkish Government called him a political prisoner themselves see here. Then numerous Nobel laureates also referred to him as a political prisoner see here. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 06:16, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Guy literally founded a terrorist group that bombs civilians. Operated his armed attacks on both civilian and Turkish soldiers to idea of seperation of Turkey and founding Kurdistan as the main goal. He literally rejected from almost every country he is trying to seek political asylum. He is clearly a terrorist and even the European governments had to let Turkey arrest and have every right to execute him. Nobody cares if some author called him as political prisoner. That's an opinion not a fact. With your argument we can easily argue that Bin Laden was a political leader and a which is not he is the most famous for, is it? So Abdullah Öcalan should be labeled and called as a terrorist. He acted terrorist actions, founded armed terrorist group, planned suicide bombers and attacks on civilians, etc. Wow such a political prisoner. sebci (talk) 02:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well I can find many sources that says He is a terorist. What makes Nobel, a Trusted source. What I am saying is very clear and known to everyone. How can this man be a political criminal when no one denies that Öcalan raided villages, killed people and killed soldiers? He even writes in his own book that he raided villages and killed people. If someone did the same thing in America, they would be executed. TurkeyWhat I am saying is very clear and known to everyone. How can this man be a political criminal when no one denies that Öcalan raided villages, killed people and killed soldiers? He even writes in his own book that he raided villages and killed people. So there is court reports. While anybody doesnt look court reports, why we have to trust Nobel organization. Turkish SpongeBob (talk) 18:35, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
According to some Turks, Abdullah Öcalan was named "Artin Agopyan" and had connections to Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA). 155.137.27.93 (talk) 07:25, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Do you really pretend that we consider "some Turks" as a reliable source? Otherwise, this is just speculative and might be labelled as WP:FORUM. Please stick to reliable sources, thank you. PedroAcero76 (talk) 11:04, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That is ok. It is only an accusation. 155.137.27.93 (talk) 13:33, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why tf use this photo?[edit]

Öcalan is a terrorist and child killer. So a normal photo should be used, not this propaganda photo that makes him look like your happy uncle Joe. He is a criminal and leader of a terrorist organization. This would be like having selfie photo on the Osama Bin Laden page. So I recomend changing the photo. 203.211.104.227 (talk) 03:01, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's the only Freely usable image of him that we have. If you have alternative PROPERLY licensed images, you are welcome to contribute them. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:13, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2023[edit]

Please add a cleanup flag to this article to bring it to the attention of editors, insofar as the entire article represents a potentially significant NPOV violation.

The change which is requested is to add the following tag to the article's template:

173.66.167.117 (talk) 05:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: would like a more clear rationale with some specificity to it - what exactly is violating NPOV and how, etc Cannolis (talk) 06:11, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Protests at Foreign Mission in Europe[edit]

This line says "Öcalan's capture led thousands of Kurds to hold worldwide protests condemning his capture at Greek and Israeli embassies.

But this article [1]http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9902/17/ocalan.protest.01/ says Kurdish protesters erupted in coordinated wave of fiery demonstrations at Greek and Kenyan missions across Europe on Tuesday

Can someone correct it. Steveonsi (talk) 15:09, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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