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Not religious[edit]

Not all anarcho-pacifists were christian or religious- Crass were a good example (explicitly atheist and polemically attacked ALL religions). Tried to put that accross in the article but maybe needs more work.... quercus robur 00:35 27 May 2003 (UTC)

Redirect[edit]

I hope no one minds, but I moved the redirect for Anarcho-pacifism to Christian Anarchism. I know not all Anarcho-pacifists are Christians, but since the main Anarchism page doesn't mention pacifism at all, I think it makes at least a little more sense. Hopefully someone will eventually resurrect this topic as an entry in it's own right though, because I think it really warrants it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.84.199.19 (talk) 2007-07-21T12:58:59

Crass[edit]

Article says: "The anarcho-punk band Crass polemicised a variant of anarcho-pacifism whilst at the same time explicitly rejecting all religions, especially the symbols of 'establishment' Christian mythology, even going so far as to incur the threat of legal prosecution in England for criminal blasphemy due to their composition "Reality Asylum"." and gives a source. I can't find the information pertaining to prosecution anywhere in the article - if no one else can, I'll remove. Darimoma (talk) 09:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Darimoma (talk) 07:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Holland/Netherland(s)[edit]

I strongly oppose to the usage of the word 'Holland', for it is (the) Netherland(s). Holland only refers to the now 2 provinces of North- and South Holland, that used to be 1 province. However, since it seems that it is used as such in a citation, I placed the (sic) behind it. Robster1983 (talk) 15:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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New drafts: Pacifism in France, Germany + USA‎[edit]

Please add to Draft:Pacifism in France, Draft:Pacifism in Germany, and Draft:Pacifism in the United States. Thanks. M2545 (talk) 17:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Black and white bisected flag[edit]

I have serious doubts about this edit from Fang23 seven years ago. This flag does not fit at all. I would like to suggest the removal. Sebastian Kalicha says in a german anarchopacifist Paper that there are no historical references and that the idea of surrendering (white colour) does not fit with the idea of a nonviolent revolution. Thoughts? --Sargoth (talk) 19:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The white in the black and white bisected flag doesn't represent surrender, it represents peace, as seen in various other flags (e.g. the Irish tricolour represents Peace (White) between Catholics (Green) and Protestants (Orange). Even white "surrender" flags did not always imply a one-sided surrender, but can mean a mutual peace in a ceasefire, such as during the famous Christmas truce where both sides raised the white flag. I would agree that it's not historical and is more of a contemporary addition - contemporary anarcho-pacifists have been seen to use it, such as Sean Benson and the Vancouver anarcho-pacifist group Big Sky Freedom Grnrchst (talk) 15:16, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Lead section[edit]

The lead section defines anarcho-pacifism as a tendency within anarchism. I believe it is better defined as a school of thought, in line with the Oostergaard citation (see chapter on convergence of pacifism and anarchism). A 'tendency' slightly neglects the authenticity and scale of the existence of anarcho-pacifism outside of the broader anarchist movement, so calling it a school of thought might be more appropriate. The current Oostergaard citation appears to be a dud, so I plan on updating it to a working link. Roar00 (talk) 11:54, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Balance in 'Ideological Variance'[edit]

The Ideological Variance section is relatively superficial and cursory and can use some fleshing out. Much more can be said on the topic of anarcho-pacifism in religion, specifically Christianism. In the near future, I plan on expaning upon the relationship between anarchism and Christianity regarding the ideals of non-violence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roar00 (talk • contribs) 12:22, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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