Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Bathgate
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The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD 16:19, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
James Bathgate[edit]
Not verifiable. Listed as a Victoria D-Day recipient, but there was only one such, and not this person. Not listed on the The Victoria Cross Reference website (which is being migrated to WP). Google turns up no appropriate-looking hits.
- Delete, not notable, possible hoax. Megan1967 06:04, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- It's not a hoax (or at any rate, otherwise incorrect) I'd say it was entirely notable... Alai 06:38, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- The only reference to the Victoria Cross is a wikipedia mirror, [1]. Please justify it's notability. Megan1967 06:44, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- That surely goes to verifiability (and why I nominated it for deletion), not notability. You appeared to be implying by "not notable", that even if the information in the article could be verified, it still wouldn't be a notable entry (but I may well have misunderstood you on this). Alai 06:52, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- This person probably exists but I seriously doubt he won the VC. There are Google hits for "James Bathgate". If he was "unverifiable" there would be zero Google hits. If the information such as the Victoria Cross was included and it's more than likely not true, I would regard that part of the article as hoax/fiction. Megan1967 07:40, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- That surely goes to verifiability (and why I nominated it for deletion), not notability. You appeared to be implying by "not notable", that even if the information in the article could be verified, it still wouldn't be a notable entry (but I may well have misunderstood you on this). Alai 06:52, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- The only reference to the Victoria Cross is a wikipedia mirror, [1]. Please justify it's notability. Megan1967 06:44, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- It's not a hoax (or at any rate, otherwise incorrect) I'd say it was entirely notable... Alai 06:38, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. His name does not appear on contemporary lists of VC winners from World War II. The only D-Day VC was Stanley Elton Hollis of the Green Howards, and I notice that Bathgate is claimed as a member of the "light Calvary" which sounds suspicious. This article is obviously some subtle attempt at a hoax. Dbiv 07:52, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, I forget to mention that. I couldn't verify that there even was a "4th Light Cavalry" (even correctly spelt, unlike the article) of WW2 provenance. Alai 15:52, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable. —Seselwa 06:32, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I am amazed anyone could call a VC recipient "non-notable". It is, however, a hoax - David Gerard 09:49, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'm glad I'm not the only person having this conceptual difficulty with this stated reason. Alai 03:16, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I am amazed anyone could call a VC recipient "non-notable". It is, however, a hoax - David Gerard 09:49, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, hoax - David Gerard 09:49, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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