Talk:Sibyl Hathaway

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March 6, 2014Good article nomineeListed
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that even Nazi occupiers bowed to Dame Sibyl Hathaway, the feudal ruler of the island of Sark, who was later described as a "benevolent dictator" and a "lady of unusual personality"?
On this day...A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on January 13, 2019.

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Is it fair to say that she was not the Dame of Sark from 1940 to 1945?The Germans may have impeded her exercise of her rights,but she was lawfully entitled to the control they usurped,at all times.--Louis E./le@put.com/12.144.5.2 19:38, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Officially she did not even rule from 1929-1954 during her marriage to Robert Hathaway, but of course she still governed the island, which also continued, although restricted, during the occupation.--Hannesde Correct me! 12:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannes2 (talk • contribs) [reply]

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 19:19, 7 March 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Sibyl Mary Hathaway → Sibyl Hathaway – There is absolutely no need to have her middle name as part of the article title. "Sibyl Hathaway" is, unsurprisingly, much more common and would make a much more natural title. Surtsicna (talk) 09:26, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Clearly. She was always known as Dame Sibyl Hathaway. -- Necrothesp (talk) 18:50, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - that is the name I know her as Victuallers (talk) 16:22, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Reviewer: Rosiestep (talk · contribs) 20:27, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this one within the week. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:27, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks Rosiestep. Best, Matty.007 20:32, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Early life
  • "She was born..." - I assume this refers to Sibyl but, grammatically, it refers to Sophie.
  • Please sort out William Frederick Collings vs. William Frederick vs. Frederick vs. Collings.
    • Done. I used Collings, as that is given as her maiden name in a source. Matty.007
  • "the local Sercquiais dialect of Norman language" - the local Sercquiais dialect of the Norman language
First marriage
  • "When the Seigneur stormed aboard looking for her the captain hid her, she travelled to the house of a relative in London." clunky
Infobox
  • fine as is
Accession and remarriage
  • "Towards the end of his life, he stopped requesting the inhabitants to pay tithes..." - Towards the end of his life, he stopped requesting from the inhabitants the payment of tithes...
  • "She used the island's peculiarity" - can you clarify how it was peculiar?
  • "but the Chief Pleas refused to pass an ordinance that would forbid selling alcohol to anyone known to get too drunk." - drunk vs. too drunk?
Second World War
  • Fine as is, though I'm not convinced that the PROCLAMATION is necessary
Postwar years
  • "Once again widowed, Hathaway resumed complete authority over the island. In 1957, Queen Elizabeth II and the Duke of Edinburgh returned to Sark in what was the first time a reigning monarch had ever come to the island" - clunky
  • "On the 400th anniversary of Queen Elizabeth I's grant of charter to Sark's first seigneur" - what year was this?
Death
  • fine
References
  • Ref4 - What does the "P." stand for in Guernsey P.?
    • I would have said Guernsey Press. Matty.007
  • Ref6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 - None of these have an online presence?
    • 6 and 12 done, 7 nothing but Amazon, 8 nothing but Amazon and GBooks, 9 nothing (from now onwards nothing excludes Amazon, GBooks and Goodreads), nothing for any others
EL
  • fine
Images
  • All are Commons
Category
  • Place of birth missing - Isn't Guernsey sufficient?

I'm done with the review. Please ping me when you think you've finished. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:56, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, I have tried to fix all issues. Thanks, Matty.007 18:57, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
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Good job. Looks adequate for GA. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:30, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am a bit ashamed to see that Matty had to address all the issues by himself. My editing pattern has been a little, well, erratic these days. Thank you both! Surtsicna (talk) 16:13, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review Rosiestep; Surtsicna, you wrote the article in the first place, well done! Thanks, Matty.007 17:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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