Talk:Finnmark

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Old talk[edit]

Is there a Finnmark location map? The Oslo map doesn't seem to be right for this page/ --24.147.128.141 02:54, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Fixed it Egil 09:26, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The majority of the sapmis are located in the norwegian capital, OSLO.

Permanent settlements and population density[edit]

I dont think we can claim that permanent settlements have existed only since 1306. Both Sami and probably also ethnic Norwegians have been living there a lot longer. About the new heading, if it states that it is the largest county in area but the least populated, then it isn't necessary to mention that it has the lowest population density. Orcaborealis 20:57, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Missing sections[edit]

This is a great article, and close to being ready for Featured status in my oppinion. What is missing is a politics section (or somesuch). The section should have something (or more) about:

  • The recent "Finnmark act" (Finnmarksloven) concerning the use of state property in Finnmark with regard to the indigenous sami people. This has been heavily debated the recent years and also drawn some international attention due to it's possible precedence for other teritories with indigenous settlments in norwegian, english, but somewhat POV, pdf in english.
  • Finnmark enjoys special tax benefits, giving its inhabitants somewhat lower taxes (to compensate for much else that is expensive) and to stop the (former) trend of people moving south. It's analougous to what other far north territories in other countrys have, (e.g. Alska but not to the same degree, Alaska has no income tax)
  • The history of migration of people away from small fishing villages and people moving from Finnmark in general. The population was much higher some decades ago.
  • Many municipalities suffer (or have suffered) very high rates of unemployment, contributing to the above mentioned migration. The Norwegian government has recently moved some state officies away from rural Oslo to (among others) Finnmark municipalities to establish more stable employment opportunities there and halt this trend. We could give examples of such state officies now located in Finnmark.
An article about the Finnmark Act has been started.Labongo 12:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We could also maybe list some notable people from Finnmark. Though, I'm not really a big fan of the many such lists on wikipedia. But it could be somewhat informative. Oppinions? Shanes 14:27, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good points, the article needs a bit more on current politics and demographics. Famous people from Finnmark? hmm, current minister of fishery, Morten Gamst Pedersen - fotball player Blacburn Rovers, Sigurd Rushfeldt - fotball player Austria Wien. Former ski jumper Bjørn Wirkola. Former politician Erling Norvik, and current politician Carl Erik Shjøtt Pedersen, former professional rallydriver Martin Schanke. Orcaborealis 16:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, and Vegard Ulvang. Anyway, it's not a list of people with particular earth shattering notability and influence. Might as well drop it. Shanes 16:32, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At present this article has just two (and suspicios at that as compared to other articles about the subject field) senteces about the third ethnic group in Finnmark, the Finns/Kvens/Kainu. It can hardly be considered "ready" or even neutral. 82.181.150.151 13:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the current article is very oriented about the Norwegian population.Labongo 12:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I did a quick reorganization of the History section. The new Sami subsection needs to be rewritten, since the current version has a Norwegian POV. The Kven subsection needs to be extended (the Kven people article has the necessary content).Labongo 12:50, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any reason why it's showing a black woman's butt over the page? Rcduggan (talk) 20:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea. I've asked about it in the IRC channel, however. Since there is nothing in the source that causes it, it's probably caused by a vandalized template. --Aqwis (talkcontributions) 20:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article has the Norwegian Sea as part of the Atlantic Ocean, which is inconsistent with the Wikipedia definition of the Atlantic Ocean. Should this be corrected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.185.126 (talk) 11:28, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Norwegian Sea is part of the Atlantic Ocean, so there is no inconsistency. Look at the map of the Atlantic Ocean (marked blue area) in the article Atlantic Ocean. Orcaborealis (talk) 15:44, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's ok, but it is not consistent with other sources, e.g. the International Hydrographic Organisation and Encarta World Atlas to name two. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.185.126 (talk) 11:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Finnmark in Swedish[edit]

This bit is simply incorrect:

"More recently, Finnmark is also the older name for Lapland in Sweden and is used by some inhabitants in this region. The title comes from Linné's expeditions in the northern Nordic regions during the 18th century, and his choice of name was influenced by the history of the region."

According to the Swedish Academy's dictionary, the word "Finn(ar)" in Swedish only ever referred to actual Finns, except in a few dialects where that usage was borrowed from Norwegian. (there is, however, "Skridfinne" - "Skiing Finn", for Sami people) The dictionary cites Olaus Magnus as using the term "Scricfinnia" for the northern parts of Lapland, but doesn't give any usages of "Finnmark" for it. The earliest usage in Swedish given by the dictionary for the name "Finnmark" is indeed Linné in 1746. But he's not talking about Lapland there but using it the sense it's used today, which is in reference to the forest regions of central Sweden (in particular Dalarna) that had a largely Finnish population. I can't find any reference for it being used as a term for Swedish Lapland. (Which seems unlikely since per the above, it wasn't common in Swedish to use the term 'Finn' without qualification to refer to Sami) 80.217.250.63 (talk) 01:20, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Linné's title?[edit]

"The title comes from Linné's expeditions in the northern Nordic regions during the 18th century, and his choice of name was influenced by the history of the region." What does this mean? What title? This sentence needs to be clarified, and it needs a reference. --Tokle (talk) 15:10, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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