Talk:Nat Lofthouse

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A fact from Nat Lofthouse appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 March 2005. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Nat Lofthouse was the England football team's highest goalscorer of all-time for eight years?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2005/March.

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'Controversy'[edit]

To quote the article;

"His second goal was highly controversial and virtually robbed United of the cup. He went into a challenge with the United keeper Gregg and pushed him into the net, a clear and unprofessional foul, a fact he did not deny. It was a harsh and unsporting act against a United side still hurting for the Munich air disaster."

This doesn't sound particularly un-biased. Perhaps it should be changed so it doesn't read like a Manchester United fan typed it up? Morgrin 15:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'All-time'[edit]

Another confusing misuse of 'all-time'. mat_x 15:01, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, the sentence is confusing, but I'm not sure how to word it properly. Basically, Steve Bloomer had the record with 28, then Lofthouse got up to 30, which wasn't overtaken for eight years. By all means edit it to make it sound better. --Ben davison 15:44, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I understand the meaning of the sentence, but it's one of those that needs a little thought. I was particularly perplexed by its use on the Main Page, given that it's a little unclear. The phrase 'all-time' is overused in general, since it subsumes 'extending into the future'. Of course, if the offical FA (or whoever) naming for the honour uses the phrase 'all-time', then that's obviously their problem and not ours. mat_x 19:21, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Well, I guess if someone breaks a record in the future (Lofthouse's England scoring record having already been broken), the phrase 'all-time' can simply be moved from the old record-holder's article to the new and a message saying they were the record-holder can be used instead. This is what I tried to do with Lofhouse. The sentence, however, does need some thought, as you say.

It could be removed, I suppose, since the article itself says: ' On May 20, 1956, Lofthouse broke Steve Bloomer's 49-year-old England goalscoring record by netting his 29th goal in a 5-1 win against Finland in Helsinki.' --Ben davison 16:58, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The Best Bolton Player there has beem —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.195.54.179 (talk) 14:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

England goalscoring record[edit]

Recently changed to show Lofthouse broke the record held by Vivian Woodward. Woodward scored 29, one more than Bloomer. Please reference Wikipedia pages of Bloomer and Woodward for totals or RSSSF International records. Date has also been changed.

The misleading information of Lofthouse breaking Bloomer's record has been on the page for more than three years. Somewhat surprised no one checked before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.229.170.116 (talk) 05:38, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cause of death[edit]

Has any information regarding the cause of Lofthouse's death been reported in the media? All that I have read so far is that Lofthouse was in a nursing home when he died, which suggests that he had not been well for some time and had been suffering from a serious illness. Sir Stanley 18:39, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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