Talk:Kahanism

Fascism

I removed the fascism cat and bar as this is not supported by any sources - please introduce sources prior to introducing. I don't quite see academic sources defining them as such outright (I do see sources contrasting). Unlike Fascism, which is generally secular, Kahanism (to which one can tie many adjectives - ultra-nationalist, extreme far right, etc.) is rooted in hardcore religious fundamentalism (mirroring perhaps some Islamic fundamentalist groups). In any case - sources please. Icewhiz (talk) 05:25, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Definition of "Kahanism" is merely Torah Judaism based on Halakha (Jewish Law, Torah Law)

Can we add these pertinent, basic principles to the lede? Rabbi Meir Kahane (ordained Orthodox Rabbi) asserted "Kahanism" is merely Torah Judaism based on Halakha (Jewish Law, Torah Law), and proposed enforcing halakha as codified by Maimonides in Israel. Here is a source, as well as a 'better source needed' in the bottom of the ideology section of the article.ShivatTzion (talk) 03:10, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 June 2022

Concerned about this bit:

"the majority of Arabs living in Israel are enemies of Jews and Israel itself"

As far as I know, Meir Kahane made it very clear that every Arab (not just most Arabs) are fundementally the enemies of the Jewish state and advocated for the expulsion of Arabs in general, not just the Arabs that could be considered "unloyal". HistoryResearcher101 (talk) 17:09, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:24, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

I meant remove "the majority of" in this part:

Kahane maintained the view that the majority of Arabs living in Israel are enemies of Jews and Israel itself HistoryResearcher101 (talk) 20:15, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Terrorist Organization

I think the sentence about the US Classifying Kach as a terror organization should be removed, since that was revoked earlier this year. Mr manor11 (talk) 08:22, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

It should be amended. It has been un-blacklisted because they have simply been inactive, but it remains a 'specially designated global terrorist' entity. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:51, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Iskandar323, IRL, I validate sanctions solutions providers to U.S. commercial and retail banks for AML/BSA and KYC compliance required by FinCEN & OFAC. Lists of SDFNs (specially designated foreign nationals) and entities that are deemed "terrorist organizations" can change often, and more so since sanctions on Russia as of 2022. State Dept. has a watchlist. Treasury has multiple watchlists. State and Treasury don't match 1:1 nor are they each unique. Anyway, entities (individuals and organizations) can be removed, or "un-blacklisted" from watchlists as appropriate by the US government, e.g. due to inactivity because all members are dead. Yet some old, inactive entities, e.g. Bader-Meinhoff group, Japanese sarin gas terrorists (forgot their name) are still on lists. How can an organization, e.g. Kach, remain a Specially Designated Terrorist group without remaining on the watchlist? Being an SDFN or SDT is what puts them on the watchlist, no? If they are deemed inactive, then they would be removed, I would think. Can you or another editor explain?--FeralOink (talk) 06:34, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

That is simply the state of affairs per US statements. See this article. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:59, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, Iskandar323, I understand now, after re-reading my own comment! There are many idiosyncrasies in the U.S. terrorist watchlists. Thank you for providing that helpful link in your reply.--FeralOink (talk) 10:38, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 November 2023

add {{Fascism sidebar}} Gorgonopsi (talk) 08:56, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

https://imeu.org/article/fact-sheet-meir-kahane-the-extremist-kahanist-movement

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0031322X.1985.9969820 Gorgonopsi (talk) 08:58, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. While the fascism portal is already present on this page, the sidebar is far more visible and so editors may have WP:WEIGHT concerns regarding it's inclusion. —Sirdog (talk) 04:06, 12 November 2023 (UTC)