Talk:How Can I Keep from Singing?

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(Scope of this article)[edit]

Perhaps the individual record articles could be merged into one article, maybe "Enya_(discography)"? I'd leave this article here but have it redirect to the main one.
--Tzarius 05:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

As of 2009, this is much more than an article about an individual recording.

The hymn significant both for its historical origin (probably relating to the chaos of the American Civil War) and for its resurgence of popularity in the 21st century.
--Richard E. Davies (talk) 17:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Richard E. Davies[reply]

Chris Tomlin[edit]

Chris Tomlin and Matt Redman recently released a version of this song. I don't know much about the original but I saw an interview on YouTube where it sounds like they tried to keep the same basic lyrics but changed them to be more modern. And, it's still called "How Can I Keep From Singing". It's on Chris Tomlin's new CD.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by StatisticsMan (talk) 02:44, 21 May 2007‎

Tomlin admitted to this hymn being the inspiration for Redman in a video on the special edition on one of his CDs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Q5ercWRPs
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.172.139 (talk) 00:54, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(RC use)[edit]

As of 2007, it is noteworthy that many Catholic churches continue to include a version of this song in their hymnals. There is also a recording of it by SheDaisy. My favorite version is Pete Seeger's. Here are his version's lyrics:

[Lyrics removed] by MrFizyx

~ Newsy 8-11-07
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.102.49.193 (talk) 05:36, 11 August 2007‎

Thanks, but we don't have the rights to publish those lyrics here on wikipedia. I think the article does have a link to the "Seeger" lyrics (used by him rather than written by him.
-MrFizyx 15:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Quaker discipline[edit]

   Even more than in human affairs in general, the topic of enforcement of community standards among Quakers involves vast subtleties. "Quakers did not permit congregational singing in worship until after the American Civil War" probably should have a link to some section in our coverage of Quakerism.
--Jerzyt 01:02, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Additions[edit]

You could add to the list of recorded versions of the song by Rene Marie on the album of the same title issued by MAXJAZZ in 2000.

Why? Is it or the band notable in any way? Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:11, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Date change[edit]

I don't have the technical skills to make editing changes to Wikipedia, so I don't think I'll try in future. After checking The Christian Pioneer Vol. 23 1869, p39 on Internet Archive, I was simply trying to correct an inconsistency between the correct publication date (1869) cited in the text, and the incorrect publication note in the accompanying footnote. I suspect from checking the footnoted source that the publication date of the Atlantic Monthly should be 27 August 1868, not 7 Aug, but I have no means of checking the original publication to be sure.Davidbro (talk) 11:07, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Davidbro: Thanks for the note. I've moved it to the article talk page so others can see it. The Google scan shows 1866, unless it's the first of a multi-year compendium, that's the date we should use. Feel free to investigate that reference. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:46, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

removing copyvio[edit]

I noticed that the reference given in the How Can I Keep from Singing?#Lawsuit section was just a general reference about copyright law, not a source for the claims in the article. In searching for a better source, I discovered that our text on this lawsuit is, ironically, copyvio from an Enya fan site. So I'm removing the text copied below. --Amcbride (talk) 14:28, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Enya and her record company were sued for copyright infringement by Sanga Music, Inc. for recording the song because she had mistakenly credited this track as a "traditional Shaker hymn", thus assumed it as public domain. Pete Seeger had helped make the song fairly well known in the 1950s by publishing it with Doris Plenn's additional third verse in his folk music magazine Sing Out! (Vol. 7, No 1. 1957), recording it, and mistakenly credited it as a "traditional Quaker hymn" without copyrighting Plenn's verse, thus presenting the entire song as "public domain". It was again published by Sanga Music, Inc. in 1964. Seeger had presented the new verse as being public domain and Plenn had only wanted the song to be preserved rather than seeking to make a profit from it, so the court decided that Enya could use the verse without paying royalties.[1]

References

  1. ^ Fishman, Stephen. "Copyright and the Public Domain" (PDF). www.lawcatalog.com. ALM. p. 6-6. Archived from the original (PDF) on 4 April 2016. Retrieved January 12, 2022.