Talk:UN/LOCODE

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For easier linking from outside to WP there have been established redirects. They have the form UN/LOCODE/XXXXX e.g. UN/LOCODE:USNYC.

People who worked on the two proposals:

Tobias Conradi , Ram-Man

Users that add UN/LOCODEs[edit]

Proposal 1: UN/LOCODE on city pages[edit]

Where to put it?

  • if there is a table put it in the table.
UN/LOCODE: USLAX

Put a shortcut sign on every page?

  • people could think this is ugly
  • people that know UN/LOCODE will maybe try typing the UN/LOCODE, they do not need shortcut hint

Proposal 2: Redirect from UN/LOCODE-standard-link to city page[edit]

Shortcut
Shortcut
Shortcut
Shortcut
  • with standardized links, other pages from outside can easier link to wikipedia
  • with shortcuts people that know the UN/LOCODE can faster get to an article

Design of standard links[edit]

see also: Geocode

name / shortcut / resume / vote pros cons
FULL

UN/LOCODE:USLAX

exactest, no conflicts, promotes the origen of the code, no need for further explanation, system of mentioning the codebase can be used for other standards to implement standard links, possibility to publish info about the Locodes for one country e.g.: UN/LOCODE:US (similiar to ISO 3166-2:US) longest, no shortcut-msg possible on city page
LOCODE

LOCODE:USLAX

shorter, no slash
LOC

LOC:USLAX

is SHORTcut, possible use for other codes,
  1. country codes LOC:DE, existing: ISO_3166-1:DE
  2. subcountry codes
  3. latitude / longitude (database driven answers)
 use for other codes has conflicts because of different 2-letter country codes and different subcountry codes systems
GEO

[[1]]

same as LOC but sounds more like geography, can be used in other language wikipedia, because "geo" exist in a lot of languages. same as loc
DIRECT

USLAX whatever you do else, there is no problem to add this kind of redirects. Supported by Tobias Conradi

shortest, no conflict with general wikipedia-style
  • possible interference with other abbreviations, for those cases disambiguation is needed -> shortcut not allways working
  • other sciences than geography might also like to insert 5-letter-redirects, than the shortcut-function decreases.

Which locations to standard-link / shortcut[edit]

Templates[edit]

Progress[edit]

Start with

  • US cities,
    • wikipedia-naming for US should be unambigous
    • only link what is in Rambot-Database
  • Cities of english speaking countries
    • less problem to find the right redirect target
  • Capital cities


Credit to Consumerium[edit]

If I checked the facts correctly (please bash me if I didn't), the article moved from Consumerium to WP consisted of one paragraph, and the main substance of the WP article has been added after that. I would not say, therefore, that the article "is" adapted, but that it once "was" adapted, and modified since. Moreover, I feel that crediting Consumerium with a phrase about as long as the content originally moved is less about giving due credit that about promoting Consumerium and its POV. Therefore, I propose to modify or eliminate this phrase. What does the community feel about this? --DrTorstenHenning 08:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Consumerium can only be two sentences: [2] I removed the credit. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 08:41, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

2007 marked for deletion[edit]

X	CA	TOQ	Toquart Bay	Toquart Bay	BC	1-------	XX	0701			Does not qualify
X	CL	CAL	Caleta Patillos	Caleta Patillos	TA	1-------	XX	0701		2045S 07011W	cf CL PTI
X	CL	GUR	Isla Guarello	Isla Guarello	MA	1-------	XX	0701		5240S 07341W	cf CL ISG
X	CM	VCC	Victoria	Victoria		1-------	XX	0701			Cf CM LIM
X	CY	MPB	Morphou Bay	Morphou Bay		1-------	XX	0701			Does not qualify
X	CZ	KLY	Klatovy	Klatovy		--3-----	XX	0701		4923N 01317E	Cf CZ KTV
X	CZ	OVO	Ostrov nad Ohri	Ostrov nad Ohri		--3-----	XX	0701		5017N 01256E	Cf CZ ONO
X	CZ	SLN	Slaný	Slany		--3-----	XX	0701		5013N 01405E	Cf CZ SLY
X	DE	PRS	Prisdorf	Prisdorf	BE	--3-----	XX	0701			
X	FJ	ELL	Ellington	Ellington		1-------	XX	0701			
X	FJ	VUD	Vuda	Vuda		1-------	XX	0701			
X	FR	SAG	St Aignan	St Aignan		--3-----	XX	0701			
X	FR	JAG	St Jean-d'Angély	St Jean-d'Angely	17	--3-----	XX	0701		4557N 00031W	cf FR SJY
X	IQ	ABL	Arbil	Arbil		0-------	XX	0701		3611N 04401E	
X	JP	NGY	Nagoya, Oita	Nagoya, Oita	44	1-------	XX	0701			
X	KR	ANS	Ansung	Ansung	41	--3-----	XX	0701			cf KR ASG
X	NI	PSZ	Puerto Somoza	Puerto Somoza		1-3--6--	XX	0701		1211N 08645W	Cf NI PSN
X	NL	HE	Hengevelde	Hengevelde		--3-----	XX	0701		5212N 00638E	Cf NL HEV
X	PK	WAG	Wagha	Wagha		--3-----	XX	0701		2917N 06744E	
X	PL	NFW	Neufahrwasser	Neufahrwasser		1-------	XX	0701			Cf PL NOW
X	PL	WMA	Wysokie Mazowieckie	Wysokie Mazowieckie		--3-----	XX	0701		5254N 02230E	duplicate entry cf PL WYM
X	SE	MLY	Moelnlycke	Moelnlycke	O	--3--6--	XX	0701		5738N 01209E	Duplicates SE MOE
X	US	PVS	Port Everglades	Port Everglades	FL	--34----	XX	0701		2605N 08007W	duplicate cf US PEF
X	US	PSY	Port Sulphur	Port Sulphur	LA	123-----	XX	0701		2928N 08941W	Duplicate entry with USSUL  —Preceding unsigned comment added by UnLoCode (talk • contribs) 22:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright status/Licensing of UN/LOCODE[edit]

Is the UN/LOCODE in the public domain? If not, how is it licensed?

Examples - how is function determined?[edit]

In the examples, we have Berlin (DE BER) and New York (US NYC) both with function value of "12345---". Yet Paris (FR PAR) has a function value of "123-5---". Why is air (4) omitted from the function value? What is the rule that determines a location's function value? In this case, is it because CDG airport lies outside Paris city limits, while TXL and JFK fall within their respective city limits? It seems odd that Paris would not be listed as having air function, because CDG's IATA city code is PAR. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.189.187.103 (talk) 18:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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