Talk:Estes Park, Colorado

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Why does this have to be suffixed with the State in the title? Insofar as I am aware, there are no other Estes Parks in the world, so is such designation necessary? It is especially unhelpful when trying to link via "Go". If there are more than one of a place, if there is an obviously well known one it can take the title and others can have a place designation (such as Paris and Paris, Texas) and if there is no consensus a disambiguation page would solve this. Dainamo 18:50, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well, I can't answer as to why it has to be referenced that way, but I can tell you why it is referenced that way. This, along with many other US geographic articles, was created by Ram-Man and his bot Rambot from public-domain geographical data, and that is how the city is referenced there. Since that is the de facto standard now, we should either stick to it or completely ditch it; making individual exceptions is probably even more confusing and unhelpful than things are now. Merenta 19:00, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Added photo of sign[edit]

While on vacation in Colorado, I took this [1] picture of the Estes Park "sign" found on US-36 [2]. I took the liberty of adding it to the article. If anyone feels that it does not belong here, feel free to revert. OneofThem 18:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Rocky Mountain National Park: A History" and other possibly citeable references[edit]

The National Park Service has an online book called Rocky Mountain National Park: A History (0-87081-146-0), which seems like a reliable source. This Google book and the website of the Glen Haven Historical Society seem to have additional content as well, and the NPS's Field Division of Education and Estes Parks' website have details which we can probably trace down citations for if necessary. Just throwing these up here in case anyone has time to work on this website! -- Gaurav (talk) 05:18, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Rocky Mountain Rendezvous[edit]

@Magnolia677 Greetings. I can agree that some less level of detail is undue. However, the reason I added citations is because, as I believe you identified, there were insufficient citations. I do not think a fact becomes less true after you correct what I agree is a poor attempt at referencing. Nonetheless, the meeting is cited in multiple pieces of literature as one of the more important events in the history of right-wing terrorism in the US. As WP:NOR, I rely on the characterization of what outside sources explain, as I referenced in the added citations.

The article was published yesterday, and I think if you notice in articles such as Leaderless resistance that the history of the topic is poorly documented on Wikipedia in general. My review of Wikipedia articles on terrorism and right-wing violence in the US shows that the discussion of any structural hierarchies is lacking. I also look to Lone wolf attack to identify there is little discussion the types of terrorism in the US, much less their origins. At this time, there are few opportunities to randomly place "and there was a very important meeting" as a context to a narrative no one has written. Zkidwiki (talk) 19:44, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Zkidwiki: I have placed both our revisions below, your on the left and mine on the right:

Your edit adds undue content about a minor event in the history of this town. Please remember that this article is about a town in Colorado, so details about it being held at a YMCA, or that it was a "watershed gathering" are irrelevant. I realize you worked hard to create the article Rocky Mountain Rendezvous (1992), but if readers are interested in specific details, they can read the article. I would even suggest that this event was so insignificant to the history of the town, that the content should be removed. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:36, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hagen, Lisa (October 13, 2020). "The Original No Compromisers No Compromise". NPR.org (Podcast). Retrieved June 27, 2023.
^ "Peter J. "Pete" Peters". Anti-Defamation League. Archived from the original on June 28, 2008. Retrieved June 27, 2023.
^ Markham-Cameron, Julia (June 2019). "Firearm Stockpiling as a Symptom of the White Patriot Identity, or: How Whites Learned to Start Worrying and Love The Gun" (PDF). Social Justice & Equity Law Journal. 2 (2): 178–80.
^ Winter, Aaron (2010). "American Terror: From Oklahoma City to 9/11 and After". In Brecher, B.; Devenney, M.; Winter, A. (eds.). Discourses and Practices of Terrorism: Interrogating Terror (PDF). Oxford, England: Routledge.
^ Markham-Cameron, Julia (June 2019). "Firearm Stockpiling as a Symptom of the White Patriot Identity, or: How Whites Learned to Start Worrying and Love The Gun" (PDF). Social Justice & Equity Law Journal. 2 (2): 178–80.

[:5-1] Hagen, Lisa (October 13, 2020). "The Original No Compromisers No Compromise". NPR.org (Podcast). Retrieved June 27, 2023.

[adl-2] "Peter J. "Pete" Peters". Anti-Defamation League. Archived from the original on June 28, 2008. Retrieved June 27, 2023.

[:62-3] Markham-Cameron, Julia (June 2019). "Firearm Stockpiling as a Symptom of the White Patriot Identity, or: How Whites Learned to Start Worrying and Love The Gun" (PDF). Social Justice & Equity Law Journal. 2 (2): 178–80.

[:7-4] Winter, Aaron (2010). "American Terror: From Oklahoma City to 9/11 and After". In Brecher, B.; Devenney, M.; Winter, A. (eds.). Discourses and Practices of Terrorism: Interrogating Terror (PDF). Oxford, England: Routledge.

[:6-5] Markham-Cameron, Julia (June 2019). "Firearm Stockpiling as a Symptom of the White Patriot Identity, or: How Whites Learned to Start Worrying and Love The Gun" (PDF). Social Justice & Equity Law Journal. 2 (2): 178–80.