Talk:The Seekers

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POV[edit]

This doesn't seem like a very flattering article for Australia's number one musical group for decades... but I don't have time to rewrite it now. Several generations of Australian children grew up to the music of the Seekers (I was one of them...) Sure their songs were conservative but they were also bloody good musicians/songwriters/performers... KJ "Remarkable string of hits" doesn't sound much like a neutral pov either —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.199.150 (talk) 19:53, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I don't think that anyone has limited this article due to them being controversial. I think that the article just hasn't evolved yet. North8000 (talk) 01:46, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Photo[edit]

Please put more photos on. I will not have none on here while little fads like Delta have pleanty.

Discography[edit]

This article would benefit from a selective discography and a table showing their charting singles in Aust/UK/USA. --Design 03:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The link to "The Best of the Seekers" links to "The Seekers Greatest Hits". "The Best of the Seekers" was released in the US on Capitol SM-2746 and ST-2746, and the album is quite different from "The Seekers Greatest Hits" in content and cover. Cscj01 (talk) 16:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Capacity of Sidney Myer Music Bowl[edit]

"In recognition of their achievements, the group was named Australians of the Year for 1967 and in March that year they returned to Australia for a triumphant homecoming tour, which included a record-breaking concert at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl in Melbourne which was attended by over 200,000 people."

Is this accurate? The Sidney Myer Music Bowl article claims a capacity of 30,000. Two hundred thousand people would be one heck of a squeeze! 217.155.20.163 00:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, according to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, The Australian Heritage Database and the Lord Mayor website in Melbourne, it is accurate. Athough I was not at the concert itself, I have it on DVD, and I can confirm that it definitely was one heck of a squeeze. Here are links to the information about this, at the following websites:
Figaro 06:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's no longer even the biggest crowd to have attended the Myer Music Bowl! The limiting factor is visibility... people down the back of a 200,000+ crowd can't see much, but they can hear surprisingly well and they can say "I was there". Andrewa 15:37, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
However, I'm pretty sure the 1967 performance attracted a then world-record crowd for a music performance (since overtaken, obviously). I'm sure it made it into the Guinness Book of Records. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Buddy England[edit]

I have transferred the personal info about Buddy England from The Seekers article to his own Buddy England page. Figaro 01:37, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Morningtown Ride[edit]

The Morningtown Ride article says this reached #1 in the UK, but this article says #2. Who's right? 86.136.248.116 (talk) 16:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Links not working[edit]

When I tried the following links they did not work:

Allright if I delete them? Dick Bos (talk) 02:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

rm - Dick Bos (talk) 05:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have now re-added the link for the Seekers' stamps at the Australia Post official website. The correct link, for the article about the Seekers' stamps, is now:
Cheers! Figaro (talk) 11:10, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recently Removed Critical Acclaim Section[edit]

I was the one who put in the recently deleted critical acclaim section. I did it in response to the general tone of the article as noted by one poster: "This doesn't seem like a very flattering article for Australia's number one musical group for decades". As I noted at the time, my addition was admittedly weak per WP standards. However, I was hoping it would be a seed/stub for development of the needed section rather than get deleted. North8000 (talk) 17:26, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So nice to see work being done on the article![edit]

Shaidar cuebiyar, so nice to see work being done on the article! North8000 (talk) 00:03, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm now finished my part and have assessed the article as B-class.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:51, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edit at The Seekers article[edit]

(copy of section from my talk page North8000 (talk) 14:11, 22 January 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Hi North8000 It's a well known fact that The Seekers had their farwell concert July 7 1968 at a BBC-TV studio in London.I can't understand why you are misleading people and writing that it was on the 9 July.I tried to correct it but you wrote the 9th again.Please contact Graham Simpson at Musicoast and he will confirm it.He wrote the book about Judith Durhams life and is in close contact with The Seekers. (by user: Proculled)

Hello Proculled. To explain. It is a common form of vandalism for folks to change numbers etc. in articles, we usually call that "subtle vandalism" Your change, being while not logged in, and with no edit summary raised a concern that that might be the case. So I reverted your change and wrote the following edit summary: "Don't know if this was subtle vandalism or a correction. Please talk to us if it was the latter. Thanks" So we were looking for you to just touch base on the article talk page (or make your edit with an explanation/edit summary) to indicate that it was a sincere edit and put your edit back in. I'll put your edit back in. Also, it looks like you are new to Wikipedia, and are knowledgeable on and have sources on the The Seekers. That article could really use somebody like you there. Please stick around and edit the article and let me know if I can help. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 14:08, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Harold Holt lives![edit]

In January 1968, on Australia Day, in recognition of its achievements, the group was named joint Australians of the Year – the only group to have this honour bestowed upon it.[27][28] They personally accepted their awards from Harold Holt, the Prime Minister of Australia, during their tour. [29]

Well, blow me down! I could have sworn Harold Holt drowned in the surf at Cheviot Beach on 17 December 1967, almost 6 weeks before Australia Day 1968. In the meantime, we'd had two (2) replacement Prime Ministers: John McEwen 19 Dec 1967 - 10 Jan 1968; and John Gorton 10 Jan 1968 onwards.
So, what does the source say? -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 11:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Singular/plural verb debate[edit]

There has been a recent edit war over whether the article should say "The Seekers are..." or "The Seekers is..." Per this discussion in the WP:MOS, the plural ("are/were") for musical groups is the preferred form in British English, while the singular ("is/was") may be more favoured in U.S. English. There is the further issue that The Seekers are an Australian group, and therefore this article should perhaps reflect Australian English usage. I note that most WP articles on Australian groups use the plural (e.g. The Easybeats, Hunters & Collectors, The Sports) – but cf. The Choirboys. Comments welcome. Tagging User:Rob Napier. Muzilon (talk) 12:39, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and I'm from the US. There are two additional reasons to support your view. One is that the really hard core grammar people say / agree that "sounds right" in normal conversation counts, and treating a plural word as plural sounds right. Second is that the name itself refers to a group of people which is plural. So if you let that flow through, a reference to them is a reference to a group of people just as much as it is a reference to the band as a singular entity. North8000 (talk) 16:48, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It seems that even in U.S. English, "are/were" is preferred when the band's name is definite article + plural noun, e.g. The Drifters, The Crystals, and "is/was" may be used if the band's name doesn't have the definite article, e.g. Barenaked Ladies (OK, they're a Canadian band, but that's another matter!) Muzilon (talk) 00:25, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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