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Welcome to Wikipedia. Your contributions are very welcome. Your contribution to Communist Party of Australia, however, fell outside the bounds of a neutral point of view and was removed. Please bear this in mind while making further contributions. Ambi 11:01, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Please read the above policy. I have no interest in defaming the CPA - just seeing Wikipedia with the most neutral article. As the author is an ALP member, and I'm even further to the left, accusing us of being conservative is laughable. Ambi 09:11, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If you start with this crap again I will ask for the article to be protected again. Adam 12:42, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Stop reverting the ALP page! Xtra 09:26, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

ALP and White Australia[edit]

Greetings Ted, a number of us are concerned with your edits to the ALP page, mainly because we feel they violate Wikipedia policy. Specifically, we believe your favoured phrasing is not neutral. It should generally be enough to state the indisputed facts and leave the readers to draw conclusions for themselves. When a particular claim is disputed or a matter of opinion, the best practice is to note it as such and fairly attribute it to those who hold that view, while also giving space to opposing viewpoints. Secondly, Adam has introduced a phrasing into the article that has the general consensus support of the editors working on the article, which your alternative phrasing did not. It is general Wikipedia practice to edit along a policy of consensus as much as possible. Working against consensus, especially without any explanation or discussion, is usually considered vandalism and is frowned upon (particularly by the Australian Wikipedia community). By all means your are free to make your case on the talk page in an effort to change the consensus, but if you engage in one-sided behaviour such as reverts and unsupported edits there is no doubt you will be considered an anti-social editor.

Even though I have no doubt you are editing out of a concern for accuracy, you need to keep the wishes of other editors in mind and engage in dialogue with them. If you establish a relationship with other editors based on trust and good faith, they will be more receptive to your input in future.

Cheers, and happy editing, Lacrimosus 04:06, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)