User talk:Gnoitall

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A slightly belated welcome. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:53, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Re: Oda Nobunaga

I know full well that "Oda" is the family name, and not "Nobunaga." However, I used Nobunaga because it sounds better. There are a few people in Japanese history who, for whatever reason, have their given names used. Nearly every history text I have ever seen about him refers to him as Nobunaga, not as Oda. And the same goes for Uesugi Kenshin, Takeda Shingen, and Toyotomi Hideyoshi; for one reason or another, history has taken to calling them Kenshin, Shingen, and Hideyoshi. So, while I would normally agree with you, in this case... seeing him referred to simply as "Oda" hurts my brain. Sorry. LordAmeth 10:27, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I empathize, because "Nobunaga" was giving me a headache. Still, I'll be happy willing to change it back if, for instance, I turn out to be wrong in light of preferred scholarly usage. (Not popular usage--to me, popular usage of Japanese names by English speakers seems uniformly and militantly wrong.) --Gnoitall 16:41, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Either way, not a big deal. I have always seen it as Nobunaga in history books, or as Oda Nobunaga, never (or almost never) as Oda. But, I don't know what the scholarly community would say about that; I haven't gone for my Master's yet, or read, yknow, the real scholarly journals, anything like that. I totally agree with you about American popular usage... I cringe every time I hear someone say 'ninjas' or 'katanas'. I think I changed it already, you can feel free to change it back to "Oda". LordAmeth 04:30, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

RE: WP:VIP

Hey, thanks for your comment. Yeah, I hope this works out too. WP:VIP has been in dire need of an overhaul for quite some time now. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk June 28, 2005 21:19 (UTC)