Talk:Graham Richardson

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Graeme Richardson (b. Sydney, 27 September 1949) a former Labor politician (who actually spells his name Graham)

What does that mean, exactly? Does it just mean that his name is Graham Richardson and the article is mistitled, or does it mean that his name is Graeme Richardson but he prefers to spell it differently? Or what? --Paul A 04:36, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hello,
Yes it means his name is Graham and the article is mistitled. I put the comment in because I don't know how to correct an error in a title, if you know please correct it. It may be more tricky than you expect, because there are links already set up pointing to Graeme.
Regards
Ruszewski

Okay, done. (The procedure for renaming an article is described at Wikipedia:How to rename (move) a page.) Having links already pointing to the old spelling is not a significant complication; it just means having to edit the relevant articles to update the links. (Anyway, it was only four links this time. I've seen far worse.) --Paul A 04:58, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

There is an actual person completely unrelated to politics, who is called Graeme Richardson. Would anyone object if I used this page to describe him as part of a series of pages I am working on, and left a link at the top for disambiguation? Phil webster 19:51, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • This page really would benefit from a picture! Help, anyone ROxBo 00:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for scandals[edit]

The scandals section of this page concerns me a little. Some of the statements in this section are unsourced (eg the Love Boat), and some have very poor sources (eg. the Socialist Worker newspaper is not a reliable source for something of this nature). I haven't edited the article because Richardson's name has indeed been mentioned ina ssociation with all these issues, but a lot more work needs to be done to properly provide the evidnece to back the claims.

In the absence of this work, the article is sailing pretty close to being both defamatory and an attack page. Jeendan 20:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My Opinion: There is book that seems to contain that but it is under superinjunction so nobody can talk about it. How do I know? 2 by 2 is still four. (Sydney Inc: The Murky World of Michael McGurk ... ISBN-13, 9780522857818 ... by investigative reporters Kate McClymont and Vanda Carson ...) The Medich connection is the glue here, it seems. It also appears that it was not a government department who applied to have the book blacklisted but Richardson, but as I said, this is my opinion, piecing small bits of info together for a picture. 2001:8003:A928:800:35C2:EABA:5FDF:D2C0 (talk) 06:50, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Peter Baldwin bashing is covered at the end of The Prince and Premier, part of a summing up of what Premier Askins dealings with organised crime had done to the society of NSW, but being written in the early 1980s no mention of Richardson is made and the whole thing is attributed to vague references to Baldwin investigating branch stacking. LamontCranston (talk) 06:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think we might better see that as the right forces trying to hit someone from the left who had potential to be convincing and was thus a threat to the (global) right. In the docu 'My enemy's enemy' there was some mentioning of strategies for that, medium vague but clear enough, e.g. like unions were the enemy or something similar. In 2013 the enemy are the environmentalists, where the British government sends moles/undercover agents or in the Argentinian soy conflict they do it their way. In 1980 everything on the left that looked like half a success would be fought fiercely and that is how I see the Baldwin case, though I read The Prince and the Premier. Remember, it was only 5 years since the loss of Vietnam and they were scared stiff that there could be more influence from the left. Next: Anyone who knows more about the Medich and McGurk connection ought to update. 144.136.192.70 (talk) 04:38, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Ron Medich connection seems to be missing, well, people can crank up their search engines. However, since the Medich family looks like benefiting from the proposed Badgery Creek airport, it may be considered an aspect of interest. 2001:8003:A030:DE00:319E:2B83:BD71:4D20 (talk) 06:46, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Offset Alpine connection[edit]

Richardson's involvement in the Offset Alpine printing factory, which later burned down, is worth mentioning. His links to Rene Rivkin. It can all be sourced and worded carefully. I will add it some time in the future when I get time.Lester 23:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV[edit]

This article seems to have a bias against the subject for the following reasons: A dissproprationatly large part of the article is related to various scandals the "further readings" section seems to be made up of mainly hostile links —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goterpaws (talk • contribs) 09:40, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite[edit]

I appreciate that a lot of effort is going into fixing up this article, and the sources have certainly been improved, but I am concerned that it isn't portraying a complete picture of his life due to its focus on newspaper articles concerning scandals. The "influence of Daniel Casey" section is colossal compared to its importance in his story, and that there's a section on that and nothing on his (far more important) relationship with John Ducker during that period is a problem. There's some great books on Richardson around, and the article really needs them. Rebecca (talk) 20:44, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback from one so wise. It's always appreciated by this relative newbie. But, I AM getting there. This has taken a LOT of work. Yes, I'm conscious of the influence of John Ducker and really want to come back to that. Perhaps a better titled section may be 'political influences' that would include Ducker and Casey (as Casey was a key mentor, before Ducker). My main focus has been on try to get rid of the POV. Prior to commencing this article, it was full of useless quotes from Richo's own book plus a large number of controversies. Marian Wilkinson's book has been a delight to (re-)read and little gems are starting to appear, with support from Paul Kelly. And I'm yet to source from the authorative biographies of Beazley (FitzSimmons), Hayden (self), and Keating (Edwards) that are no longer gathering dust on my bookshelves. I am a little sceptical in sourcing from d'Alpuget - although her most recent biography on Hawke has provided some insights into Richardson's character. However, I do accept your point that sourcing from media, and the Herald in particular re Richo, has not been ideal; although this un-authored article has been quite informative. Jherschel (talk) 09:30, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Marian Wilkinson's book is indeed terrific - I've got a copy, and it's having read that that really brought to light some of the flaws here. I think the "Political influences" section idea is a good call. Anyway, thanks for taking this on - he's such an important figure, and the article was execrable before you started - good luck with it! Rebecca (talk) 11:11, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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