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old comments from 2006[edit]

Anybody from meknes here ?

I am From Meknes

Mequinez is the spanish word for meknes. Meknes was known as (Meknassa)in ancient time, so I edited your entry. If you have any objection, please report it on here.

as far as i'm aware the city is named after a berber tribe knwon as Meknassa. [I meant that the hebrew script was not needed for the name] Read3r 18:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC) The french wikipedia explained its name like as i said. But i'm wondering why the name is transcripted in the hebrew script. I removed it from the English wikipedia. That is strange, i find Read3r 18:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good job man[edit]

Good job body, Of course, ther is still a lot of stuff to add but it's a good beggining. I'll try to ask people in Meknes-net web site to come and add stuff!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 196.206.31.105 (talk) 16:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Population[edit]

Giving a population of 950 000 is quite ridiculous. What do you count? The official number in the year 2004 was 536,232.--Muhandis79 13:29, 5. Apr. 2010 (CEST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.226.106.141 (talk) 11:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Population[edit]

Accusations of "arrogance" are unnecessary. It is official Wikipedia policy that information be verifiable using reliable sources. I am not aware of any definition of a metropolitan area for the city of Meknes that comes from a reliable source. If a reliable source exists that states that the population of Meknes Prefecture (835,695 in the 2014 census) corresponds to the population of the metropolitan area of Meknes, it needs to be cited. In its absence I have given the 2014 census population figure reported by the Haut Commissariat au Plan, Morocco's government statistical agency, for what it calls the "city" of Meknes, which encompasses not only the municipality of Meknes itself but also three others (Toulal, Ouislane, Al Machouar – Stinia). For what it's worth, the Meknes's official website gives only the population of the municipality of Meknes proper (520,428). I will add that information to the article as well. Cobblet (talk) 13:46, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding name given in "Berber languages"[edit]

The first line gives the name of the city in several languages, notably in "Berber languages". This raises two issues.

For one, given that this is a group of languages, it is quite doubtful that all of them would have the same name for the city except perhaps for some hypothetical idealization over distinct varieties. Does anyone have any ideas/sources for how to resolve this issue?

Additionally, "Berber" is often regarded as a slur, to the extent of my knowledge by speakers of the relevant languages themselves, and preference is consequently given to "Amazigh" as the descriptive term for these languages (possible source: http://linguisticanthropology.org/sla-blog/respecting-identity-amazigh-versus-berber/). Does Wikipedia have a consensus/policy on this issue, and should we therefore switch from the term "Berber languages" to "Amazigh languages" (of course subject to the first issue raised above) in this article?

Honsgoc (talk) 19:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The languages have some differences but I imagine major places names aren't all that different between them, but since this is the written version of the name then either way it probably just matters how it's written. I'm not an Amazigh speaker but I'd imagine a lot of orthographies would be standardized anyways? I assume Tifiniagh doesn't mark vowels either, so it's less likely that the word would need be spelled differently based on small pronounciation differences. But this is my educated guess; a native speaker should confirm.
Also good point about the term "Berber languages", even if it's the name of the relevant main articles here on Wikipedia. I think "Amazigh" could more appropriate as you suggest and also more precise to boot. It would be useful to check afterwards if other Morocco-related articles do the same; and if they don't, maybe make a similar suggestion.
Cheers, Robert Prazeres (talk) 19:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Major revisions needed to some sections[edit]

I put a maintenance tag for more references a while ago, but in any case some content needs revision. The "main sights" section needs some cleanup for better organisation and clearer information. The "history" section is also nearly entirely unsourced and contains some questionable material. I've just completed a major new page, the Kasbah of Moulay Ismail, along with the earlier Grand Mosque of Meknes and Lalla Aouda Mosque articles, all of which contain some useful sources and materials that can be reused and adapted here, so I'm going to draw from those and make some basic but major revisions. Robert Prazeres (talk) 04:47, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]