Talk:Figure skating

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Nomination of Portal:Figure skating for deletion

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Rewrite and request for page improvements

Hi fellow editors, I've rewritten the first section of this page (down to Jackson Haines), added citations and links to other relevant pages. Please take a moment to review my edits.

I think this page in general is messy with duplicated content from the head section and sub sections. I'd suggest rewiting this content removing dubplication and organising it better for readers.

I think it could benefit from a skills techniques section to summarise and draw out exactly what is it that Figure Skaters do that sets it apart from other forms of skating and that helps readers to understand other sections/pages they might consult. E.g. competition and judging. At the moment, this information is scattered around the article or missing. Some of the sections are to detailled and might warrant (or already have) their own pages!

What do others think? Happy to do the work to tidy it up. CurvyEdges (talk) 23:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Along with others, I've noticed that the WikiProject:Figure skating isn't very active, also this page doesn't seem to be either! This might be because its the off season and lots of fans who are editors aren't paying attention? But it could explain why this page has ended up with lots of duplication. I think the best way forward is for me to edit it and try to organise and improve it in my sandbox. I'll post the link here and notify the projects that have declared it's in scope. I've also identified several other projects that might want to include it in their scope, ageing (adult skating), disability (inclusive skating) and LGBTQI+. I'lllet them know. Hopefuly we can get a few editors and some interest in making a really comprehensive, balanced, well written and concise page, that readers rate. That's my aim, please come help me! :) CurvyEdges (talk) 16:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Please read MOS:LEAD:

"The lead section (also known as the lead or introduction) of a Wikipedia article is the section before the table of contents and the first heading. The lead serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important contents. It is not a news-style lead or "lede" paragraph. The average Wikipedia visit is a few minutes.[1] The lead is the first thing most people will read upon arriving at an article. It gives the basics in a nutshell and cultivates interest in reading on – though not by teasing the reader or hinting at what follows. It should be written in a clear, accessible style with a neutral point of view. The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies.[2] The notability of the article's subject is usually established in the first few sentences. As in the body of the article itself, the emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources. Apart from basic facts, significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article. As a general rule of thumb, a lead section should contain no more than four well-composed paragraphs and be carefully sourced as appropriate."

What's your reason for removing information about the fact that figure skating was the first winter sport included in the Olympics? That certainly is relevant to showing figure skating's notability/standing among winter sports. Is a discussion of "English" and "International" styles of skating among the article's "most important contents"? Does this adhere to Wikipedia's policy of neutral point of view (WP:NPOV) or is it promoting a particular country? Why are you changing Archive URLs from Archive.org to Webcitation? Archive.org is generally more stable. I don't object to all of your additions. I transferred some material to other sections to keep the lead concise and focused on the article's most important points, as recommended in MOS:LEAD. Also, please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters. Hergilei (talk) 23:48, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Rewrite and request for page improvements (2)

I believe there can be more additions to the section about health and injuries, for the physical injuries there are examples of skaters who suffered them, but for mental injuries, there is only a single sentence about eating disorders. I would suggest giving an example such as Gracie Gold to add to the impact of mental stress in the sport. Daniel Thompson326 (talk) 15:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Have worked on a figure skating in pop culture section, so far have added books, films and shows, and video games the sport appears in, what else would this section benefit from? Daniel Thompson326 (talk) 16:09, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

In popular culture sections can become a bit trivial and should be trimmed to a minimum of notable items. Show us what you've got and we'll see what's relevant. Remember that anything you add must be accompanied by a reliable source – please see WP:POPCULTURE. Rodney Baggins (talk) 17:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for that link User talk:Rodney Baggins I was basing the format and content of it off other sport pages that had similar sections referring to them in pop culture. You can find a list of the things I added in my sandbox named figure skating. Daniel Thompson326 (talk) 15:33, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

The section about clothing in the last paragraph in quotations is directly copied from the ISU rulebook, should be reworded to not be the exact language (Daniel Thompson326 (talk) 16:02, 28 April 2021 (UTC))

Also may want to reference why the rule changed due to Katarina Witt and her outfit at the 1988 Winter Olympics (Daniel Thompson326 (talk) 16:02, 28 April 2021 (UTC))

I have added information about mental health and skaters in the health and injuries section, a pop culture section, and made minor edits to the elements and moves, and clothing section. Please see the edit history for more details. Daniel Thompson326 (talk) 15:45, 3 May 2021 (UTC)