Talk:Sjálvstýri

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I don't know if translations of the names of faroese political parties are standardized, but some information can be found in english on the website of the faroese parliament: http://www.logting.fo/Løgting%20UK%202004.pdf

I think that native English speaker can take a look at this and maybe move some pages or something, if that seems apropriate.

--JJ-Hammer 12:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Article name[edit]

It is a pity that the article is not simply entitled Sjálvstýrisflokkurin, since – in the absence of the party's having an official English-language title (and there is no reason why it should!) – that is the only unambiguous designation for the organization. "Self-Government Party", "Home Rule Party", and the rest are really no more than descriptive glosses. -- Picapica 21:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have now moved it to its current name New Self-Government, which should be unambiguous.--Batmacumba (talk) 12:34, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ideology[edit]

The labels used to describe the partys ideology are rather inaccurate. They are sourced, but by reference to rather old texts, which are not specifically about the Faroes, and I am unsure if its okay to remove them without providing a replacement source (which might be hard to find). Would removing anything older than the last decade be okay?

Their current view on separatism is that the Faroes should pursue a gradualist path to independence by "taking home" area after are until there is nothing left and then cut the last formal ties to Denmark. I am not sure "regionalism" covers this gradualist approach to separatism. Since gradualism is a strategy and not an ideology I think separatism, as we use on Danish and Norwegian wiki, is more accurate.

It is also not Liberal in any meaningful way (unless Social Liberalism just equals economic policies slightly to the right of center). Their current leader Jógvan Skorheim and the former, current MP Kári P. Højgaard, are both Social Conservatives (in the US sense) and despite an official neutrality on ethical matters (like the other two centrist parties in the Faroes, the Social Democrats and Union Party), it is de facto the third most socially conservative party after the hardcore SoCons/fundis in the Centre Party and the Conservatives in the Peoples party. It has always been fairly heterogeneous because after PP split in 1939/40 and the left wing nationalists founded Republic in 1946 it was basically a party for everybody on the separatist side, who weren't willing to experiment with Socialism or supporting hard right economic policies + people who were less "here and now" focused regarding separatism than the two big parties. It has long been split between progressive Torshavn academics and fishermen/craftsmen in the settlements with a splattering of separatist Liberals. In 2014 Progress was founded as a both socially and economically Liberal/Libertarian separatist party and several people from their youth wing + former parliamentary leader Sámal Petur í Grund (1998–2001) left for Progress. At about the same time former chairman Helena Dam á Neystabø (1994–2001) and former parliamentary leader Kristianna Winther Poulsen (2011–2013) joined the Social Democrats, which cost them quite a few members in Torshavn. So with the principled Liberals gone for Progress and the progressive Torshavn academics leaving for the Social Democrats what is left in the party are people in the settlements, who are socially conservative separatists, like PP, but just more centrist on economics. Their voter base is now essentially identical to PP and their best results are in Eysturoy and Nordoyar (the most small c- conservative parts of the Faroes). They tried running activist writer Zakarias Wang (who left Republic, because he thought they were going soft on separatism by accepting Danish party aid!) and former Union Party member and prominent lawyer Bjørn av Heygum as Torshavn candidates this time, but both got paltry results, which was interpreted as Torshavn voters not being prepared to view New Self-Government as anything remotely "progressive" or "liberal" given that their votes would likely get SoCons elected.

I think Moderate Conservative and Separatist would be the most accurate to cover their current position. But it is always hard to find sources for Faroese politics. So not sure I will pursue this further, just thought I would mention it. The recent name change to New Self-Government was also chosen to distance itself from its history and give it a clearer profile - and it actually appears to be a rather ideologically coherent party now - for the first time in its 109 year old history.--Batmacumba (talk) 12:34, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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