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Concern: Someone tries to change history based on non-expertise in Thai cuisine archives[edit]

Dear Editors,

Recently in Thai community, we have some concerns regarding so many changes about Thai culture and heritage across Wikipedia. Many (mis)information were changed in less than a couple years and replaced with non sequitur claims (many editors who reverts back were bullied online and blamed to be too Thai-centric), this happened especially after the hit of Ong-Bak: Muay Thai Warrior and Love Destiny (TV series). Even though this seems to be less severe event, due to the fact that people tend to believe in archival evidences rather than Wikipedia. But however, these changes can cause many confusions to non-Thais and especially foreign tourists coming to Thailand. This page was written many years ago and many great editors (like you) have gone and barely come back to this page :..-( It will be great if we can agree on consensus regarding the better quality (and reliable of the content).

Best Wishes <3

PS. we are working on the translation of archives, which are mostly in Thai language and were written at least or nearly a century ago and try to avoid writing, which was concluded by not-so-expert in the field from decade(s) ago (this is to make sure to avoid a decade-old (or less) fragile writing, which wants to change an eonian history). In addition, we also find some confusions i.e. Northern Khmer people, which is refers to Isan people in the south (Buriram, Sisaket, Surin) with a very small number of individuals those can communicate in Khmer, not in the north (mainly Thai and Isan speakers). In addition, the proven evidence of ancient settlements was found in northern Isan region, that is, as in Neolithic period, belonged to Ban Chiang culture (for better understand later periods of Thai historirical periods/timelines, suggest readings: Lavo Kingdom and Sukhothai Kingdom).

-- Chutinonp — Preceding undated comment added 02:06, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps some specific examples would be helpful, @Chutinonp. ––FormalDude talk 04:31, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Penny van Esterik who's reference you removed without explanation among others has, in fact, specialized in Southeast Asia, which should give her a broader understanding of Southeast Asian culinary interactions than a narrow Thai culinary scholar, and I have no reason to believe her to be biased either. I am, however, sceptical about the impartiality of Thai sources (just like Khmer sources) due to the politicised nature of food in Southeast Asia. Of course, as long as the sources fulfil the reliability criteria, they can and should be taken into account, but definitely not by arbitrarily eliminating any opposing scholarship, which has been a persistent trend across multiple articles in Wikipedia (such as mango sticky rice, steamed curry and green papaya salad) that have had editors like this going on a rewriting rampage. As for the Northern Khmers, it's not surprising that only a very small number of them can communicate in Khmer since teaching in public schools in Thailand is exclusively in Thai, but I don't see how modern linguistic arguments have anything to do with culinary influences. –Turaids (talk) 08:45, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unsupported statements[edit]

Expert status of Australian chef is unsupported. Subsequent quotation positing the uniqueness of Thai cuisine's affinity for harmonizing disparate ingredients is unsupported. 24.113.167.69 (talk) 04:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]