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This page was deleted because of suspicion of copyright violations. However, the material in question was quoted and cited appropriately. The entire contribution is mine, with the obvious exception of the properly cited and referenced quotations. This contribution was based on a major essay written for a graduate course on bioethics I took at Cleveland State University. I have earlier posted a similar manuscript at http://babykcase.homestead.com/

D. John Doyle MD PhD djdoyle@hotmail.com

Addendum - July 27, 2004 It has been some time since my Baby K contribution was deleted in error because of suspicion of copyright violations. The apparent copyright violations were actually quoted material and were properly cited and referenced. I would remind everyone that the material submitted is entirely my intellectual property. I would appreciate it if someone would send me an e-mail about what I can do to fix this problem or otherwise help with this situation. Thanks,

D. John Doyle MD PhD djdoyle@hotmail.com

I restored this article from Possible copyright violations. It does not appear to be one. Are there further concerns? Rmhermen 14:50, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring the document and for the subsequent editing.

D. John Doyle MD PhD djdoyle@hotmail.com

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 03:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Names[edit]

Why do they bother to keep the names secret on stuff like this? Thanos6 (talk) 16:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because some people hate persons keeping a baby with a such disease alive. I could imagine that people wanted to tell them that they should have let the child die. I completely understand why you would want to be safe from such messages. --Henrikb4 (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Organ Donation[edit]

I remember vaguely when this story was in the news, and one thing I remember was that the baby's organ's rotted inside her body, leaving them unusable for donation. Had she been allowed to die, her organs could have helped other newborns. But I don't remember this part very well, and I'm not sure about it.

71.212.9.95 (talk) 14:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ethical Question[edit]

I am new to wikipedia talk. I knew Baby k. well. I was one of her caretakers. It is ethical for me to talk about the case? Obviously, I mean with common sense and keeping the child's dignity in mind. Lovescats252 (talk) 08:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, why not. You can post it on talk page if you are not sure. It can be deleted if it's something questionable.

keene being this child's last name[edit]

keene was not the last name of this baby that was used ever in her medical records at the nursing home where she lived, or at Fairfax Hospital. I cannot provide the correct name due to legal and ethical reasons...just stating a simple fact.Lovescats252 (talk) 05:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovescats252 (talk • contribs) 05:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We have one "reliable source", a major paper, using the last name Keene, and no reliable sources documenting the name as controversial or different. I have no particular reason to doubt the accuracy of your statement, but the net result may be that an error in the Richmond Times-Dispatch will taint Wikipedia. Wouldn't be the first such error, nor will it be the last, but the RTD is ultimately responsible for its reporting, not Wikipedia. Verifiability, not truth, is Wikipedia's goal--the former can be attained, while the last cannot even be ascertained in many cases. Jclemens (talk) 16:30, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Costs[edit]

the article mentions allocation of cost which made me wonder who paid for the care and treatment? 139.18.183.181 (talk) 20:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently since the baby and mother were fully insured, Kaiser Permanente paid for the treatment. See ref 5, The New York Times article. Sean.hoyland - talk 05:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's an overly simplistic explanation though. Care like that drives up the cost of insurance premiums for everyone. Wingman4l7 (talk) 07:06, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]