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Top 200+ Songs

I'm on a mission to find out what the worlds favorite songs of all time (any genre now). What I want you to do is to tell me on my talk page (click here) what your 10 favorite songs are. Depending on how many people put the same song in their list, that song moves closer to the number 1 spot. The one rules are that you can't vote for more than three songs of the same artist, you can only vote for english songs, and the artist has to have a page on Wikipedia. I break all the times, and if you feel a song was unfairly ranked, you could tell me on my talk page and I might listen. Participation is needed and a report of the twenty top songs at the time will be on my user page and the full list has a link at the top of this survey's section. If you have any questions or you want to submit your favorites post it on my talk page. Long live ROCK N' ROLL.RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck


Top 10 favorite songs[edit]

Picking only 10 was not fun. And the three per artist restriction was hard. "Natural Science" barely got beat out. thegeneralpublic (sorry I'm not logged in; too lazy right now)

EDIT: Now I'm logged in. 7&¶ 00:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

songs[edit]

Money Maker

Show Me What You Got

Ice Ice Baby

Irreplacible

Chasing Cars

can only put those--Pupster21 19:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Polls:[edit]

Hi. I'm just sending out a message for a new study I will be undertaking soon. It will involve surveys & polls to gather information & trends of editors on Wikipedia & other subjects. The data gathering will involve yourself recieving a questionaire on your talk page for you to fill out. I will then collect your questionaire & combine it with data from other editors. If you would like to be a part of this experiment, or know of someone who does, place a "Yes" or "No" below this message. Remember, it's only for fun & you can choose not to fill out all or parts of your questionaire once they arrive. Have a nice day... -- Spawn Man 05:56, 8 September 2006 (UTC). P.S. You're rock/all song collection is coming along nicely. To think it started out so small.... :)[reply]

Yes RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck 22:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Great! As soon as I get enough people, I'll send out a questionaire. Thanks! Spawn Man 06:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1st poll:[edit]

Hi everyone! This is the 1st ever poll to be sent out. Please read the Disclaimer below & enjoy! -- Spawn Man 05:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships[edit]

  • Question 1: Do you feel that other Wikipedians are as nice (or as horrible!) as when you started editing Wikipedia as a registered user?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Roughly about the same. D)Don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 2: If you answered "No" above, how have other Wikipedian's attitudes changed?
    • A)They have grown nicer. B)They have grown meaner. C)Don't know. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.
  • Question 3: Are admins as nice as you think they should be? If you're an admin, try to be truthful...
    • A)Yes. B)No, they are nicer. C)No, they are meaner/grumpier. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 4: Have you ever been in a serious dispute on Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No, I've never been in a dispute. C)No, I've only been in minor disputes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 5: Have you ever been blocked from editing Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. (You can find out by checking "My contributions" & selecting "block log"). D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.
  • Question 6: Have you ever met another editor on Wikipedia in real life?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.
  • Question 7: Do you enjoy communicating or working with other editors on Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 8: Have you ever taken a "Wikibreak" due to stress from other editors?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)No, I've only taken a "Wikibreak" due to un-editor related stress. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 9: Have you ever collaborated on an article with another editor on Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Several times. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 10: Do you envy other editors on Wikipedia for their achievements or good fortune? Be honest...
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)I don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
Disclaimer

Hi everyone. If this is your first time filling out a survey, read this. To fill out a questionaire sheet, simply send me a post to my talk page, clearly stating your choice for each answer. For example: For Question 1, you might choose to place on the message, "Q1: A)" or "Question 1: Choice A." etc etc. It's up to you, as long as I get the general jist of what your choices are. You have around 1 week to return a survey sheet, but late entrie's will be accepted.

Remember however, your personal choices may be read whilst they are on my talk page. I will understand if you don't wish to answer some or all of the survey due to this. For this reason I have also placed an "Abstain" choice for each question. Try & answer truthfully, or don't answer at all if you can't.

However, your personal choices will not be expressed on the survey's outcome, instead it will be part of a larger finding, such as "60% of people eat chocolate, 25% never eat chocolate & 5% of people chose to abstain from answering..." I will never say, "90% of people eat chocolate, while only Fruityman said he didn't..." This would be an invasion of privacy. However, if a question has (Please explain) or (Please elaborate) as a choice, your specific answer may be used in the survey outcome, although your name will not be. If a question does not have (Please explain) as a question choice, but your intended choice is not represented on the choice list, then feel free to provide another choice which fits your description.

You're probably getting bored reading all of this so I'll wrap up. To see outcomes of the results, see my Polls subpage. Feel free to comment on anything! Feedback is always welcome. Most importantly, have fun. Topics will vary greatly & surveys may be resent out at later times to re-assess a consensus if survey numbers have grown significantly. If you know anyone who would be interested in these surveys, send them to my talk page or if you see this survey sheet, send your own answers in! Thanks. -- Spawn Man.

2nd Poll:[edit]

Hi everyone! This is the 2nd poll ever to be sent out. Please read the Disclaimer below & enjoy! -- Spawn Man 09:15, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poll 2 - Writing subjects[edit]

  • Question 1: When you edit or write articles on Wikipedia, do you specialise, or tend to write about a single or select topic range? For example, only frogs or only movies.
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)I have a few topics I write about. D)Don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 2: If you have more than only one topic range, what are the top 3 topics or subjects you write about on Wikipedia? For example, frogs, movies & cars.
    • A)My top 3 are... B)I have less than 3 topic ranges. C)Don't know. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.
  • Question 3: Have you ever written or edited an article about your home town or the city you live in?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Briefly. D)Don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 4: Have you ever edited what was, or turned out to be, a controversial subject or article in current news or on Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. D)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 5: Have you ever reverted vandalism?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.
  • Question 6: Have you ever helped get an article to Featured Article status?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)I helped partly. D)I've edited a Featured Article after it was promoted, but never helped to get one featured. E)Not sure. F)Other... (Please explain). G)Abstain.
  • Question 7: Do you find it difficult to think of things to write about on Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 8: On Wikipedia, do you edit articles to do with Wikipedia policies & voting etc more frequently than you edit actual encyclopedic articles?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)I have an equal mix of the two. D)Occasionally. E)Not sure. F)Other... (Please explain). G)Abstain.
  • Question 9: Do you wish there was a Wikipedia article about your life?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 10: Would you like to expand the range of topics you write about on Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)I don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 11: Do you usually write about topics that are to do with your job, school or hobbies?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)I don't work, I've never been to school & I don't have hobbies. :(. E)I don't know. F)Other... (Please explain). G)Abstain.
Disclaimer

Hi everyone. If this is your first time filling out a survey, read this. To fill out a questionaire sheet, simply send me a post to my talk page, clearly stating your choice for each answer. For example: For Question 1, you might choose to place on the message, "Q1: A)" or "Question 1: Choice A." etc etc. It's up to you, as long as I get the general jist of what your choices are. You have around 1 week to return a survey sheet, but late entrie's will be accepted.

Remember however, your personal choices may be read whilst they are on my talk page. I will understand if you don't wish to answer some or all of the survey due to this. For this reason I have also placed an "Abstain" choice for each question. Try & answer truthfully, or don't answer at all if you can't.

However, your personal choices will not be expressed on the survey's outcome, instead it will be part of a larger finding, such as "60% of people eat chocolate, 25% never eat chocolate & 5% of people chose to abstain from answering..." I will never say, "90% of people eat chocolate, while only Fruityman said he didn't..." This would be an invasion of privacy. However, if a question has (Please explain) or (Please elaborate) as a choice, your specific answer may be used in the survey outcome, although your name will not be. If a question does not have (Please explain) as a question choice, but your intended choice is not represented on the choice list, then feel free to provide another choice which fits your description.

You're probably getting bored reading all of this so I'll wrap up. To see outcomes of the results, see my Polls subpage. Feel free to comment on anything! Feedback is always welcome. Most importantly, have fun. Topics will vary greatly & surveys may be resent out at later times to re-assess a consensus if survey numbers have grown significantly. If you know anyone who would be interested in these surveys, send them to my talk page or if you see this survey sheet, send your own answers in! Thanks. -- Spawn Man.


Poll at Syd Barrett[edit]

I have a poll going at the Talk:Syd Barrett page. Would you like to participate and help us solve an issue? TheQuandry 01:37, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships RESULTS[edit]

Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships
  • Question 1: Do you feel that other Wikipedians are as nice (or as horrible!) as when you started editing Wikipedia as a registered user?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Roughly about the same. D)Don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 2: If you answered "No" above, how have other Wikipedian's attitudes changed?
    • A)They have grown nicer. B)They have grown meaner. C)Don't know. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.
  • Question 3: Are admins as nice as you think they should be? If you're an admin, try to be truthful...
    • A)Yes. B)No, they are nicer. C)No, they are meaner/grumpier. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 4: Have you ever been in a serious dispute on Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No, I've never been in a dispute. C)No, I've only been in minor disputes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 5: Have you ever been blocked from editing Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. (You can find out by checking "My contributions" & selecting "block log"). D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.
  • Question 6: Have you ever met another editor on Wikipedia in real life?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.
  • Question 7: Do you enjoy communicating or working with other editors on Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 8: Have you ever taken a "Wikibreak" due to stress from other editors?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)No, I've only taken a "Wikibreak" due to un-editor related stress. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 9: Have you ever collaborated on an article with another editor on Wikipedia?
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Several times. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
  • Question 10: Do you envy other editors on Wikipedia for their achievements or good fortune? Be honest...
    • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)I don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.
Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships - RESULTS

These are the results for Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships. For the actual questions see above. Other (please explain) answers may have their text placed into these results for clarity. However, only a selection of Other (please explain) samples may be included if full selection is too big. Options not expressed means that nobody picked them. Any thoughts are appreciated.

  • Question 1: Of the 14 editors to answer Q1; 3 editors (21%) chose option A), 6 editors (43%) chose option B), 2 editors (14%) chose option C), 1 editor (7%) chose option D) & 2 editors (14%) chose option E), saying "People need to be nicer to one another. The other site I tend to inhabit is much more civil, and always has been" & "It really depends on the individual; some are as nice as ever while others have acquired noticeably dourer dispositions."
  • Question 2: Of the 7 editors to answer Q2; 3 editors (43%) chose option A), 2 editors (29%) chose option B) & 2 editors (29%) chose option D), saying "The focus needs to be more on building the encyclopedia, and less on internal politics, in my opinion" & "Passive aggressiveness is more prominent than before."
  • Question 3: Of the 14 editors to answer Q3; 4 editors (29%) chose option A), 2 editors (14%) chose option C), 3 editors (21%) chose option D) & 5 editors (36%) chose option E), saying "Admins need to realize their behaviors reflect on the entire Wikipedia community" & "Again, it depends on the individual" & "Administrators are not as professional as they should be."
  • Question 4: Of the 14 editors to answer Q4; 8 editors (57%) chose option A), 5 editors (36%) chose option C) & 1 editor (7%) chose option E), saying "It depends on the definition of "serious". I've been involved in some that got fairly acrimonious, but mostly over things that might be considered relatively trivial in some quarters."
  • Question 5: Of the 14 editors to answer Q5; 1 editor (7%) chose option A), 11 editors (79%) chose option B) & 2 editors (14%) chose option D), saying "Yes but it was overturned" & "I was blocked by accident when someone hacked my email."
  • Question 6: Of the 14 editors to answer Q6; 5 editors (36%) chose option A), 7 editors (50%) chose option B) & 2 editors (14%) chose option C).
  • Question 7: Of the 14 editors to answer Q7; 8 editors (57%) chose option A), 4 editors (29%) chose option C) & 2 editors (14%) chose option E), saying "For the most part, yes" & "Yes, but not always (but more than 'Sometimes')."
  • Question 8: Of the 14 editors to answer Q8; 5 editors (36%) chose option A), 6 editors (43%) chose option B), 2 editors (14%) chose option C) & 1 editor (7%) chose option E), saying "Only to deal with real life time consuming things."
  • Question 9: Of the 14 editors to answer Q9; 9 editors (64%) chose option A), 1 editor (7%) chose option B), 3 editors (21%) chose option C), & 1 editor (7%) chose option E), saying "I suppose I have, but not directly. I haven't spoken to someone directly and said, okay let's work on this together."
  • Question 10: Of the 14 editors to answer Q10; 2 editors (14%) chose option A), 7 editors (50%) chose option B), 4 editors (29%) chose option C) & 1 editor (7%) chose option D).

Hope you enjoy the results which you, the editors of Wikipedia, changed in every way. Have a ncie day! -- Spawn Man 10:41, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poll Response[edit]

Hi, Rentastrawberry, sorry for taking so long. I listen to WBRU and WHJY in Providence, as well as linking to WTUE in Dayton, Ohio. WHJY plays a lot of Ozzy and Rush; WTUE plays a lot more country influenced classic rock such as Joe Walsh, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Charlie Daniels and Kid Rock, etc.

  1. War Pigs - Ozzy
  2. Invisible Airwaves - Rush
  3. Runnin' with the Devil - Van Halen
  4. Hell's Bells - AC DC
  5. Jeremy - Pearl Jam
  6. Purple Haze - Jimi
  7. Stupefied - Disturbed
  8. For Whom the Bell Tolls - Metallica
  9. Girls Girls Girls - Mötley Crüe
  10. Under the Bridge - Red Hot Chili Peppers

10 best songs of Guitarmankev1[edit]

Great idea, but I feel so limited by only 10! Here's some really good songs, in no real order, really.

  1. "Free Bird" by Lynyrd Skynyrd
  2. "Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2" by Pink Floyd
  3. "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen
  4. "American Pie" by Don McLean
  5. "All along the Watchtower" by Jimi Hendrix (I liked his version better.)<be>
  6. "Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd
  7. "Comfortably Numb" by Pink Floyd
  8. "Creep" by Radiohead
  9. "Paint it, Black" by Rolling Stones
  10. "Hotel California" by The Eagles


Maybe "Theme from Metalocalypse" by Dethklok would be an alternate choice. --McTrixie 19:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

11. Juicy by The Notorious B.I.G.

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 6, October 2006[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 006 – October 2006

Beatles News
  • The site of the former Casbah Club, operated by Mona Best (mother of Pete) in the basement of her house, and where the nascent Beatles played and rehearsed, has been accorded Grade II Listed status following a recommendation by British Heritage.
Project News
  • Some Project articles are having their Featured Article status reviewed, and the comments are not encouraging. The articles are A Day in the Life and A Hard Day's Night (song). (She Loves You has already had its FA status revoked.) Please participate in the discussion and help improve the articles!
Member News
  • As usual, the self-effacing individuals who contribute to the Project are far too modest to mention any Barnstars or other awards they may have received. Obviously they feel their editing/contributing is reward enough.
Issue of the Month

The lead article of the Project recently lost its FA status, and now some of the other articles are being reviewed. Citations and references within articles are again the major concern. Contributors who have literature (books, magazines, links, etc.) are especially needed to provide the necessary citations. It is not enough for editors to know the facts; they need to be backed up by other sources. All help, both within the articles and the discussion, would be appreciated.

From the Editors

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Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 007 – November 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

Come back, Kingboyk! The children miss you!

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WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 7, November 2006[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 007 – November 2006

Issue of the Month

Again, the issue of the month is inline citations. A Day in the Life, A Hard Day's Night (song), and Get Back have all been defeatured, as they failed to satisfy criterion 1(c) of What is a featured article?, and other song FAs are due for the chopping block. Inline citations are an important aspect of articles—they ensure verifiability and reliability, and they remove original research. Additionally, they give readers the option to read the original source material and view it within context.

Basically:

  1. All direct quotations attributed to Beatles members pooled from interviews need full inline citations.
  2. All critical comments about songs or albums need full inline citations to notable music critics, magazines opinions, or reviews, as opposed to being merely comments by Wikipedians.
  3. Inline citations need: author name, article name, publication date, and name of publication. Such info is still preferable even if quoting from an interview posted upon a website; when this is the case, place the URL link at the end of the citation with the date it was last accessed. (This will help editors retrieve the page using the Wayback Machine, should the link go dead in the future.)
Beatles News
  • The Beatles are due to release a soundtrack album, LOVE, at the end of November, as a companion to their Cirque du Soleil adaptation of the same name. It will feature remastered and remixed versions of their previously released songs, including some new medleys.
  • Paul's getting a divorce. Pain, arguing, and fighting abound.
Project News
  • The Wings tours are really nicely documented now (see Category:Wings tours), but Category:The Beatles tours is almost empty. Kingboyk and the rest of us would love to see (and read) articles on each Beatles tour, including the pre-fame tours of the UK—and the Hamburg trips, of course!
  • The hottest Project page this month has been Paul McCartney, involved in the Featured Article drive, as mentioned above.
Member News
  • Our project members are too modest to report any awards they may have given or received.
From the Editors

Wherever possible, editors should help to trim down on list-like prose within Beatles articles. They should convert list-like sections into fluent, cohesive prose which ties an article's sections together. Lists make articles disjointed, awkward, and difficult to read.

Be sure to take part in the Featured Article drive, and don't forget those inline citations!

If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!

Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 008 – December 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

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WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 8, December 2006[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 008 – December 2006

Issue of the Month

Wikipedia's standards are improving all the time, with the result that many articles in The Beatles Wikiproject are being nominated for review of their FA and GA status - and many are losing that accolade. It is difficult, with such a large number of articles and the ease with which editors may make changes which are detrimental, to maintain the standard of articles, let alone improve them. As ever, members efforts are both appreciated and needed to keep the Project on course.

Beatles News
  • A Beatles compilation called "Love", featuring tracks remastered by George Martin (with his son Giles), has been released and has made number 1 in Canada.
  • The impending divorce between Paul McCartney and the former Heather Mills continues to make the pages in the tabloid press in the UK.
Project News
  • The hottest Project page this month has been Paul McCartney (see above and below).
Member News
From the Editors

If one is to be mercenary about the subject, it should be noted that Paul McCartney is going to be more noteworthy than usual in the near future as his divorce case comes to court. In that case it is great to note that a small group of Project Members (plus another individual who does not feel compelled to register himself despite important contributions) have worked very hard, and in an atmosphere of good humour, to take the McCartney piece to a succesful Good Article nomination. Perhaps this is the method to use for future articles, a small dedicated team concentrating on one subject at a time. Of course, all members are invited to join any existing group or even go about forming their own. Please note any such action in the Project Log.

If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!

Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 009 – January 2007). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

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Top 10 favorite songs[edit]

1)Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan - Bob Dylan is a genius, this song is his ultimate masterpiece and the greatest and most influential song ever written. 2)Blowin' In The Wind - Bob Dylan - Great protest song, careful, enigmatic lyrics, and a stunning harmonica tune. 3)All Along the Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix - Although Dylan's version is also amazing, Jimi's version is incredible. Packed with possibly one of the greatest guitar solo's of all time, the song's destructive and violent music incredibly contrast the gentle lyrics and harmonica of Dylan's. 4)The Weight - The Band - For some reason I just love this song. 5)Imagine - John Lennon - Imagine all the people... Great song, great message. 6)Satisfaction - Rolling Stones - Great song from one of the greatest rock n roll bands of all time. 7)Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana - Possibly the greatest modern rock song and the most influential and greatest song of the 90s 8)Layla - Derek and the Dominos - LAAAAAAAAAYLAAAAAH!!! Great song. 9)Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix - 'Scuse me while I kiss the sky 10) The Times They Are-a Changin' - Bob Dylan - Come gather round people, wherever you roam. And admit that the water around your head's grown. What a great song.

Top 10 favourite songs[edit]

In any order

Nice to know you, Summer Romance, Rougues - Incubus; Dancing Days, Good times bad times - Led Zeppelin; Sheep, Us and Them, Shine on You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd; Amsterdam - Coldplay; Joker and the Thief - Wolfmother

--TioChaka 01:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats![edit]

Congrats on getting Invasion to the main page yesterday. I'm surprised no one's already "congratted" you, so I thought I'd do it now. Yes, I've been on a wikibreak for a bit, & I still am in a way. Anyway, thought you'd like the message & hope you've had a good new years... :) Spawn Man 02:27, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You[edit]

Thank you for offering to help with Eric Clapton articles and help is what I truly need. I think most big things are done of those type articles but minor issues pop up. If you could find references and put citations on the Eric Clapton and Blind Faith articles that would be greatly appreciated (especially the Eric Clapton article) and add on any info to the Derek and the Dominos page if you can because it's just a tad-bit too short to be a WP:FAC. That's all I can think of on the top of my head and good luck and godspeed. - Patman2648 07:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 9, January 2007[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 009 – January 2007

Beatles News
  • The ongoing divorce proceedings between Paul McCartney and the former Heather Mills continues to occupy the attention of the media - Heather Mills reportedly receiving unspecified death threats.
  • The British Post Office have released a series of stamps depicting various Beatles album covers.
Project News
  • The Paul McCartney article is being primped and primed for submission as a Featured Article candidate.
  • The good folk who have been working on the above article have turned their attention to the John Lennon page. Everyone is, of course, invited to contribute.
  • The hottest Project page this month has been the Macca (Paul for those not in the know!) article, again.
  • Other Project news... Please let the editors know if anything is happening, or just contribute it to the next newsletter.
Member News
Issue of the Month

The question of capitalising of the letter "t" in The of The Beatles has been raised again. It appears that UK style references (here and here) also maintains that the letter should be in lower case. If the Project is to be appear professional then it may have to change the format. Polite discussion is invited at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles/Policy. If possible, please provide sources/references to support your position.

From the Editors

It has been a fairly quiet time with regard to the Project (or at least that is how it seems). If you are reading this and wondering why your efforts in respect of a Beatles article has not been mentioned, it may be that you haven't told any editor. This is your Newsletter, which means you can contribute to it, so please do!

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WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 10, February 2007[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 010 – February 2007

Beatles News
  • George Harrison's handwritten lyrics to the song While My Guitar Gently Weeps have fetched $300,000 (£152,552) in a Scottsdale (Arizona, United States) memorabilia auction (15 January). It contained lines omitted from the final version of the song. Specifically :
I look from the wings at the play you are staging
While my guitar gently weeps
As I'm sitting here doing nothing but aging
Still my guitar gently weeps

On the reverse of the page appears the lyrics to Hey Jude in the hand of Mal Evans.

Project News
  • The Project lead article (The Beatles, for those not paying attention) has had its Good Article status reviewed, and the consensus was 'keep'. The efforts of User:Andreasegde in supplying the requested citations, and other editors in helping with general editing, and the strength of arguments for retaining the grade sufficiently impressed the reviewers.
  • After a great deal of work Paul McCartney was promoted as a Featured Article candidate. Unfortunately it failed to succeed. Among other comments, including the correct length of dash (or hyphen), from reviewers was that the article was too long and also that it needed further information included in some of the sections(!?) The promotor, and driving force behind the insertion of a great many references, citations and facts (and the remover of unwanted text, and splitter of information into daughter articles), Andreasegde vigorously argued the case for promotion but was unsuccessful.
  • Mimi Smith was successfully nominated for WP:Good article status. The major editor to whom accolades should be directed is... Andreasegde.
The Beatles' Influence on Recording Music by Apepper and Wings 1973 UK Tour by Danthemankhan.
  • The hottest Project page this month was possibly, despite the Article Status related issues regarding both The Beatles and Paul McCartney mentioned above, the third attempt to delete The Beatles trivia in less than a year. As was the case for the second attempt at AfD the result, after an energetic discourse, was keep but with a suggestion that the article be retitled to reduce the incidence of deletion requests. Editors are invited to discuss possible new titles, and/or the need for same, at Talk:The Beatles trivia.
  • Other Project news - Lar did a bit of a purge of the subscription list during last month's newsletter delivery. Some folks were kept (and are at the active list), some who clearly are not active on wikipedia at all were removed with a "you've been removed" message left (and are at the inactive list), and some folks who were less active but not as clearly completely inactive were given a "this may be your last newsletter" message (and are at the possibly inactive list). A more nuanced subscription list is now here (in several subpages as outlined above), and anyone who wants to tweak their status (moving one's self back is a clear cut sign that we should deliver the newsletter to you!) should feel free. Please respect the rather spartan formatting though, this list is used by WP:AWB currently, and may be used by other automation in future.
Issue of the Month

Hottest issue or concern for this month is the perennial matter of Project articles losing their Good or Featured Article status. The main Project page now includes a status board that gives the current ratings of some of the more important articles. Let's make sure the core articles (The Beatles, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr) reach or retain Good Article status, if not Featured Article. If you are aware of another major article whose status is at risk, add it to the board.

Issue of last Month

Since there has been no response in the matter of the use of lowercase for the initial letter of the when applied with Beatles from the opponents, it is likely that the case for using lowercase only will be adopted as Project policy by default. User:LessHeard vanU will draw up a recommendation and submit it to the Policy talkpage in a few days.

From the Editors

We are pleased to welcome the contributions of Alexcalamaro to this newsletter. Any editor can include an item of interest or news; this medium can be an excellent tool for getting a comment seen by a great number of project members. As it says below, this is your newsletter.

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Top Songs[edit]

Well...

  1. Supper's Ready - Genesis
  2. In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry
  3. Dogs - Pink Floyd
  4. Another One Bites the Dust - Queen
  5. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - The Beatles
  6. The Knife - Genesis
  7. Dancing With the Moonlit Knight - Genesis
  8. Firth of Fifth - Genesis
  9. The Musical Box - Genesis
  10. Watcher of the Skies - Genesis

There's many others, most liked are Genesis's, Pink Floyd's, The Beatles's, The Rolling Stones's, The Who's, and many others... Maybe a more complete list will be made soon, I'll send you it. Genesis | Please sell England by the pound*** | on 20:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 11, March 2007[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 011 – March 2007

Beatles News
  • On February 5, 2007, the Beatles' Apple Corps and Apple, Inc. (Apple Computer) announced a settlement of their latest trademark dispute involving use of the Apple trademark on the iTunes Music Store. In May of 2006, the High Court ruled in favor of Apple, but Neil Aspinall, manager of Apple Corps, vowed to appeal. Evidently, in the intervening months, the two companies negotiated a settlement. The settlement is discussed in this AP story. For background on the case, see Apple Corps v. Apple Computer. For fans, this may mean that Beatle music will be available someday on iTunes. Despite rumors of a February 2007 release, the material is still unavailalble.
Project News
  • There were no Project article adoptions for the month of February.
  • Project Policy has now been altered to reflect that the use of lowercase for the letter "t" of the word "the" in the Beatles is now considered the correct rendition.
Member News
  • New members to the project since the last issue include (although the first is a long time contributor who apparently has only just found the Participants section);
Tvoz
Freshacconci
Liamshaw
John Cardinal
Mezlo
ErleGrey
Captain Waters
Hey jude, don't let me down
Issue of the Month

See below. There is genuine concern that the Newsletter is getting stale in terms of content and variety, and that the same individuals are featured each month. Furthermore, lack of "news" is hindering the timely distribution as the editors wait for something to report. All Project editors are encouraged to give their news, suggestions and thoughts to keep the 'Letter vital and interesting. If making direct contributions do not appeal, please give a mention on the Newsletter talkpage and it will be incorporated!

From the Editors

Help is needed for the job of putting future Newsletters together. The present incumbent is finding it difficult to reflect the breadth of the Project, focusing on much the same individuals and articles each month, and has decided to beg for contributions from other individuals. Interested persons need only start working on next months issue to qualify. It really is that simple!

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Top 10 songs[edit]

1. Jesus Of Suburbia by Green Day

2. These Things by She wants revenge

3. Homecoming by Green Day

4. Time of your life Green Day

5. Some day you will be loved Death Cab for Cutie

6. Mamma by My Chemiacal Romance

7. Evil Angel by Breaking Benjamin

8. Give Me Novicane Green Day

9. Californication (I'm sorry) Red Hot Chili Peppers

10. Ball and a Biscut by The White Stripes

--St.daniel talk 22:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

News Time[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 012 – April 2007

Beatles News
  • On Friday 30th March, a deranged fan was held after attempting to force his way into Paul McCartney's mansion. See here for more details.
  • Apple Corps continues to make news, after the recent settlement with Apple Computer over the use of the Apple trademark. On April 10th, the company announced that long-time chief executive Neil Aspinall had stepped down and had been replaced by American Jeff Jones. It was also announced that another long term dispute, this time with EMI over royalties, had been amicably settled prior to Aspinall's departure.[1][2]
Project News
  • The article "Jeff Jones (music industry executive)" suddenly becomes of top importance in the Apple sphere of Beatledom. User:Kingboyk has created a stub on the man, but the article needs urgent beefing up (including basic biographical data such as date and place of birth) and, if possible, a photograph of the new Apple chief executive.
  • With the debate over "the Beatles" vs "The Beatles" continuing to cause ill feeling and a number of resignations from the project from advocates on both sides, Kingboyk attempted to diffuse the situation by blanking the Project Policy page and tagging it as {{historical}}. Although this unilateral action hasn't been reverted as of the time of writing, the reaction was mixed, with two members rejoining the project and others stating their disagreement. With the issue still not resolved, the page was sent to Miscellany for Deletion, for the wider community (and WikiProject The Beatles members) to consider the issue.
Member News
  • The membership list has been trimmed, with inactive members listed seperately to help gauge the status of the project. If you've been incorrectly listed as inactive, please don't be offended - just move yourself back to the main list.
The Rutles: The legendary group who inspired lesser imitators like "The Beatles". WikiWorld, March 2007
From the Editors

This has been a tumultuous month for the project yet again.

We need your input on how the project should work and what it's role should be. And we need to start getting Featured Articles, folks! :)

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Two things[edit]

Crowded House[edit]

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My top ten[edit]

This is slanted and biased, but here goes:

  1. "New York State of Mind" - Billy Joel
  2. "Distant Sun" - Crowded House
  3. "Something" - The Beatles
  4. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" - Nirvana
  5. "Message to My Girl" - Split Enz (see here)
  6. "Wish You Were Here" - Pink Floyd
  7. "Riders on the Storm" - The Doors
  8. "Little Wing" - Jimi Hendrix
  9. "Pride and Joy" - Stevie Ray Vaughan
  10. "Black Hole Sun" - Soundgarden

And songs that do it for me right now but may not forever are Famous Last Words (song), Chasing Cars (though in light of the song being performed at Diana's memorial, I think some people don't think of their lyrics in context) and Hello (Lionel Richie song). --lincalinca 09:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Top ten[edit]

  1. Phil Ochs, "Crucifixion" (acoustic version)
  2. Cat Stevens "How Can I Tell You"
  3. Beatles "Things we said today"
  4. Simon & Garfunkel "Kathy's Song"
  5. Carly Simon "The Right Thing to Do"
  6. Bruce Springsteen "41 Shots"
  7. Glen Hansard/Marketa Irglova (The Swell Season) "Lies"
  8. Beach Boys "Don't Worry Baby"
  9. Bob Dylan "Masters of War"
  10. Radiohead "Idioteque"
  11. The Eagles "Witchy Woman"
  12. John Lennon "Jealous Guy"
  13. The Mamas and the Papas "Twelve Thirty"
  14. Moody Blues "Bless the Wings"
  15. Neil Yong "Helpless"

Ok, I can't count - but this just scratches the surface. Thanks for the fun!Tvoz |talk 06:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject The Beatles[edit]

Your user name is on the “Inactive, or have just popped out for a cup of tea...” list on the Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles page. You can move it back to the “Participants” list if you feel this is not the case. :) -- WikiProject The Beatles 15:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Rent a Strawberry[edit]

Where did the name come from? Basketball110 :) 05:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

French Laundry up for deletion[edit]

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Top 10 songs[edit]

1.Bohemian Rhapsody

2.Stairway to Heaven

3."Imagine" by John Lennon

4."I Will Always Love You" by Whitney Houston

5."Thriller" by Michael Jackson

6."Sweet Home Alabama" by Lynyrd Skynyrd

7."Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd

8."I'll Stand By You" by Carrie Underwood

9."Billie Jean" by Michael Jackson

10.Shania Twain "Forever And For Always"

That was revised, replace #5 with "Tears in Heaven" by Eric Clapton. —Ceran [ speak ] 22:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My top 10 ROCK songs as of now[edit]

  1. Bohemian Rhapsody, Queen, A Night at the Opera
  2. Stairway To Heaven, Led Zeppelin, IV
  3. We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions (hope they count as one), Queen, News of the World
  4. Paint It Black, Rolling Stones, Aftermath
  5. Kashmir, Led Zeppelin, Physical Graffiti
  6. Heart-Shaped Box, Nirvana, In Utero
  7. Sweet Child O' Mine, Guns N' Roses, Appetite For Destruction
  8. Innuendo, Queen, Innuendo
  9. Sweet Home Alabama, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Second Helping
  10. Immigrant Song, Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin III

That was very hard. Where's my cheque? Talk to me... 15:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Proposed deletion of Shanks infinite number paradox[edit]

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Pointless[edit]

Please read this. And this page is overdue for archiving again. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Top 10 songs[edit]

  1. Everlong - Foo Fighters
  2. Hey Jude - The Beatles
  3. Shake It Off - Taylor Swift
  4. Ordinary World - Duran Duran
  5. All You Wanted - Michelle Branch
  6. Stitches - Shawn Mendes
  7. Donna - Ritchie Valens
  8. Cool Kids - Echosmith
  9. Fight Song - Rachel Platten
  10. Twilight Zone - Golden Earring

Wisnu Aji (talk) 16:25, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Neutral user talk[edit]

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Every Villian is Lemons listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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