Talk:Taher Elgamal

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Science and Academia

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the science and academia work group.

Egypt Low‑importance

	Egypt portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Egypt, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Egypt on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EgyptWikipedia:WikiProject EgyptTemplate:WikiProject EgyptEgypt articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Cryptography: Computer science

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cryptography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Cryptography on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CryptographyWikipedia:WikiProject CryptographyTemplate:WikiProject CryptographyCryptography articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Computer science.

spelling[edit]

See Talk:Pretty Good Privacy#Copied from User talk:Jdcc for a discussion of how Dr Elgamal spells his name. Since the article is now correct, we should probably change the title to be correct also. But this involves a lot of links and changing them. does anyone want to undertake this? In the meantime, there's now a redirect page pointing here from Taher Elgamal. ww 23:31, 13 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Should it then be Elgamal discrete log cryptosystem instead of ElGamal discrete log cryptosystem, too? Stern 21:23, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

In my view yes. The gentleman should certainly be able to choose how to spell his own name, especially when the differences amongst the various versions is not likely to lead to confusion. ww 17:11, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I disagree; clearly, if someone changes their name, the biography article should reflect that. However, if a widely used artifact is named after someone, and they subsequently change their name, we should then use the most widely-used version of the name of the system, whether or not that matches up with the person's new name. — Matt 17:18, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Agree with Matt. Have his biography at Taher Elgamal, but the system named after him should be at ElGamal encryption. —Lowellian (reply) 03:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's mainly an issue in transliterating Arabic names to English. the "EL" prefix is an article equivalent to "the" in English, but usually is glued to the word it is associated to. In Egyptian Arabic it is "EL" and in the standard Arabic it is "AL". Sometimes in one's preference in transliterating his name he would highlight that the "EL" prefix is just an article and not part of the name. Sometime people even omit the "EL" prefix. All the following is valid and equivalent: El-gamal, El-Gamal, Al-gamal, Al-Gamal, Elgamal, ElGamal, Algamal, AlGamal. The way one chooses which one he prefers might change over time or be different in different contexts (Like in CV or a chat room or a paper). For the cryptosystem I think it must stay ElGamal because that's what it is in the literature. For the name itself (of this page) it would be up to his preference and certainly we can not decide for him, but I am not sure of how relevant it should be to his CV (whether we should take his CV as his "personal" preference or his "professional" preference. Mohammad Al-Aggan (talk) 01:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why is most of the article about the English orthography of the protagonist's surname, which, incidentally, means "the camel" in Arabic?

I think the matter is how this person himself writes its own name. Check its article at http://groups.csail.mit.edu/cis/crypto/classes/6.857/papers/elgamal.pdf. Although the name on the first page is full capitalized on the last page he refers a former article of his own: T. ElGamal, “A subexponential-time algorithm for computing discrete logarithms over GF(p2),” -- 2001:738:0:401:201:2EFF:FE02:F73A (talk) 08:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notability[edit]

This article is dreadfully deficient, considering that this person is notable as the inventor of the security scheme the Web depends on. I am making this comment to remind me and others to do better. The most effectual Bob Cat (talk) 03:34, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just added 20+ references and a note about Dr. Elgamal's impact. I will add more later--Brain online (talk) 19:24, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Taher Elgamal. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131110183237/http://features.rr.com/article/0cs48fLcyDfs1 to http://features.rr.com/article/0cs48fLcyDfs1

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 12:45, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]