Talk:William-Adolphe Bouguereau

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Post-1920[edit]

But after 1920, Bouguereau fell into disrepute, due in part to changing tastes and partly to his staunch opposition to the Impressionists who were finally gaining acceptance. For decades following, his name was not even mentioned in encyclopedias.

This is interesting and should be expanded. Please provide a citation. Viriditas (talk) 01:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery[edit]

This needs to be edited to show key paintings, and representative ones. Ty 04:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the spring of 1905, Bouguereau's house and studio in Paris were rapped. "rapped"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.203.72.225 (talk) 12:58, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Art Renewal Center[edit]

I rm'ed the lines about the Art Renewal Center and moved link down to "See also". The number of links and un-refed or poorly refed mentions reads like spam and may simply be WP:UNDUE. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 16:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

I've never met a Frenchman who would pronounce William like a kraut (i.e. "Villiam") as stated here. Looks pretty amateurish anyway. Fix it or delete it. 70.53.108.40 (talk) 12:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone want to create an article on Bouguereau's pupil?[edit]

I'm not an art geek; I just ran across some of his paintings on the Interweb, so I made an article request here:

Charles-Amable Lenoir (lived 1860–1926, article requested 2009-11-02) French painter, student of William-Adolphe Bouguereau. See bio, Google Search, Google Image Search. Also, some of his paintings should be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons (he died in 1926, 1926+70=1996, so the images should be public domain, right?).

--Keith111 (talk) 03:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done VernoWhitney (talk) 02:55, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His name[edit]

From the catalog accompanying the 1984 Bouguereau exhibition (Paris, Montreal, Hartford), from the Biography by Mark Steven Walker:

"The second of four children, William Bouguereau was born on 30 November 1825 et (sic) 4.00 p.m. in the rue du Duc in La Rochelle. The name recorded on the birth certificate is Adolphe William Bouguereau; the boy and the man would always be called William."

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.103.87 (talk) 19:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Egalitte[edit]

His first major painting, egakite devant mort should be included —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.128.217 (talk) 10:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what the standard quality of these pictures are supposed to be? I looked it up on Google, but it seems the ones shown are a little lacking of quality. Tried looking for both "Equality after death" and "Egalite devant la mort". It also seems I don't know how to upload pictures, so. 153.18.98.50 (talk) 01:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery again[edit]

I'm planning to reduce the gallery which, as noted above by Ty, is rather indiscriminate. If the goal is to include every work, it should be spun off into a separate List of paintings by William-Adolphe Bouguereau. In the context of this article, however, a representative selection that does not dwarf the text seems best. Comments welcomed. Ewulp (talk) 02:41, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Endorse: I raised the concern of an apparent excessive use of media at Talk:Claude Monet‎, and would agree that this seems to be the case here. I would have removed the files myself, but I am no expert, and my removals would have been arbitrary. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 04:46, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a representative selection of Bouguereau's work to the article, retaining a pointer to the more extensive gallery at Wikimedia Commons. Bede735 (talk) 19:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation of his Name (#2)[edit]

I get nothing out of the French IPA thingy. How on Earth is that name pronounced? In conversations about him with people who aren't interested in art, I end up stumbling completely at the name, which only gets me a bunch of confused looks. Sort it out, editors. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 01:52, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You probably lost interest long ago, but an approximate transliteration of his name would be BOO (guh) ROW: two more-or-less equal syllables with a schwa between them. Hope this helps. Awien (talk) 22:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How Many Paintings?[edit]

It says 822 in the lead paragraph and 826 in a later section Irish Melkite (talk) 02:24, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bug in Contents Menu[edit]

When I click on section "2 Fame, fall, and rise", a glitch happens and I am not redirected to the section. I use the latest version of Chrome on a desktop PC computer. Xavier (talk) 7:12am, Sunday, November 1st, 2015 (UTC)

Hello Xavier enc. It works okay for me so it may have something to do with Chrome. This page is not on very many active editor watchlists so it would be a good idea if you posted this question at the Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). MarnetteD|Talk 16:24, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures scroll incorrectly[edit]

When viewing images enlarged on this article, the picture viewer seems to scroll randomly through the order in which the images are listed. I use the latest version of Chrome on a desktop PC computer.

Xavier (talk) 6:54am, Sunday, November 1st, 2015 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Art Renewal Center[edit]

Very little content, would be better here in the reputation section Theroadislong (talk) 16:04, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. The Bouguereau article is already quite lengthy. Merging would just make it longer. Plus, the Art Renewal Center meets Wikipedia criteria for having its own article. Of course the latter should be mentioned in the former, with a link to main ARC article. Coldcreation (talk) 16:11, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The merge would only add a couple of lines of text, the Art Renewal Center article is barely notable enough to stand alone. Theroadislong (talk) 16:23, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not convinced that the Art Renewal Center is notable enough to rate mention - David Gerard (talk) 16:19, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In which case it might be better to nominate it for deletion afd? Theroadislong (talk) 16:38, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No need to delete the ARC article. It could benefit from a little work though. Coldcreation (talk) 18:46, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That is what I think also; I see no reason to delete the article, but I do think it needs more work. --Katolophyromai (talk) 19:15, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is no reason to delete the article. However, there is a reason to add more sources, restore most of what has been deleted, and greatly expand the article in general.ArtMajor (talk) 10:50, 1 November 2017 (UTC) striking sockpuppet[reply]
  • Oppose I think we should keep both articles. Merging them would result in this article becoming unnecessarily long and also losing much of its focus. I looked at the article Art Renewal Center and examined its edit history. It seems to have recently attracted a large amount of controversy, but I still do not see any reason why the subject of the article would not meet Wikipedia's notability standards. The article has been around since 2005 and the subject has been mentioned enough, I think, to warrant its own article. Nonetheless, I do not feel especially strongly about the issue and I do not wish to fight over it. --Katolophyromai (talk) 17:35, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose while the ARS features Bouguereau he is not the only artist whose works are represented so it would be WP:UNDUE to merge that articles info here. On another note the ARC article seems s bit "promotional" and needs work. MarnetteD|Talk 18:13, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    You should go into the history and see the pre-cull version - David Gerard (talk) 22:08, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If this article is to be merged with another, it seems merging with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_art, would make more sense than merging with the Bouguereau article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1010:B15A:342D:ECC6:93A3:A5B2:19D9 (talk) 14:06, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Bouguereau should have his own article as should ARC...Modernist (talk) 14:27, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The ARC should have its own article. While it should include more sources, most of the deleted information should be restored. ArtMajor (talk) 10:46, 1 November 2017 (UTC) striking sockpuppet[reply]
  • Oppose not related to Bourgeau, not definitive to his life. GuzzyG (talk) 14:01, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Which Mortagne?[edit]

"At the age of 12, Bouguereau went to Mortagne to stay with his uncle Eugène, a priest.."

Given that the family appears to have lived in the Charente-Maritime department, I suppose the commune in question is Mortagne-sur-Gironde, but if anyone has the facilities to check this, that'd be great. Harfarhs (talk) 04:33, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kamal-ol-molk[edit]

Why is there a link to Kamal-ol-molk in the See Also section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpkilla (talk • contribs) 00:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good question Mpkilla. The info in the two articles doesn't really suggest a connection as far as I can see. OTOH there is a faint whiff of some similarities in their style. That is best represented in this painting by K. I would suggest waiting for a few days to see if any other editors respond to your post. If they don't then you should feel free to remove the link from the see also section. MarnetteD|Talk 00:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone else wants to add their thoughts here please be aware of this thread Talk:Kamal-ol-molk#William-Adolphe Bouguereau. MarnetteD|Talk 00:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for pointing this out. Removed. Coldcreation (talk) 02:16, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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