Talk:The Church of God (Charleston, Tennessee)

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Moving comments placed in the article here[edit]

The following commentary was posted to the article by 68.117.184.188:

As a member of this church I just thought that I would make a few small corrections.

We believe the church was organized by Christ personally, during his earthly ministry. Therefore, we believe the church was established prior to Pentecost. We believe the bible records this organizational meeting in the third chapter of the gospel of Mark. We also believe this to be in keeping with the prophecies of the OT (i.e. Isaiah 2:2, Psalms 72:16).

Furthermore, though we believe this organized body of believers (The Church of God)to be the continuation of the bible church, we do not believe only members of our church are Christians. We believe that anyone who has been justified by the grace of God through faith in Christ Jesus is born again, and as such they are our brothers and sisters in Christ. We also believe that it is God's will and purpose to physically (organizationally, if you will) reunite all living Christians as one church prior to the rapture (John 10:16).

Just moving it here. -- Hadal 06:41, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

More comments moved over from the article (I haven't figured out who added them):

"Another small correction: A. J. Tomlinson was not a Quaker. He was however raised near a Quaker community. A. J. Tomlinson was not a Christian, or a religious person for that matter, until after he was married. His first association as a member with any organized church after his conversion was in a Baptist Church. So, A. J. Tomlinson was a former Baptist, but not a former Quaker. He left for the poor and uneducated Appalachian region of North Carolina as a representative of the American Tract and Bible Association. It was during his travels and ministry in this area that he first became acquainted with the "Holiness Church at Camp Creek", etc."

"The Church of God is not a penecostal organization." --orlady 02:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Has this denomination split in two?[edit]

From the latest edits to this article, by 75.42.0.145 (including the changes in external links), I conclude that this denomination has split in two. The parts are http://www.thechurchofgod.org/, headed by Stephen Smith, and http://www.The-ChurchofGod.net/, Bishop James C. Nabors, General Overseer. There seems to be an edit war beginning over the issue of which of these is the true denomination. If they have split, it seems to me that Wikipedia needs to have separate articles for the two units that now exist. However, this is complicated by lack of verifiable information -- none of the new additions (nor most of the old content) are supported by citations other than the websites.--orlady 04:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there has been a split in this organization. The two different groups were effectively divided in Sept. 2006. The only citation as such that I can give to this is a newspaper article from Nov. 17,2006 in the Cleveland, TN Daily Banner. The fifth paragraph of the article defines the nature of the division. This organization(nabors) needs its own page the same as The Church of God(charleston) is seperated from The Church of God of Prophecy has its own page. Article link below

[rkey=0063055+[cr=gdn Biblemanryan 01:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the enlightenment! For some reason, I had trouble with the link. This string worked: http://www.clevelandbanner.com/NF/omf/daily_banner/archive_display.html?[rkey=0063055+[cr=gdn] (Now I have to go read the article.) --orlady 01:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem (I think the ['s and ]'s in the link collided with wiki formatting).

I conclude from the article that one branch, with Stephen Smith as the overseer, is still called The Church of God, with offices in Cleveland and a mailing address in Charleston, and presumably still using the name The Church of God (Charleston, Tennessee). It appears to me the other branch may be using the name The Church of God under the leadership of Bishop James C. Nabors. Is that accurate? --orlady 01:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If there's no article for the newest branch, I fear an edit war will ensue. Can you create one with a title like The Church of God under the leadership of Bishop James C. Nabors?--orlady 02:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry the kids have been so unrulyBiblemanryan 03:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraphs removed from article[edit]

The following paragraph was placed in the external links section. I've moved it here:

The term Holy Spirit is used as follows in The Church of God, literally as the KJV of the Bible puts it, and that is, The Holy Ghost, when related to the conviction of sin,and reception of. Also, speaking in tongues is common with those who possess the Holy Ghost, but the church's official teaching on it is, "Speaking in tongues as the initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost".

In 325 A.D. Emperor Constantine, called a meeting of the religious leaders, (I.E.,Bishops of the early church), however relgious history indicates that about 1/3 of the Bishops were excluded because of thier stand against what would be basically a government controlled religion. At the Meeting the Nicean Creed was signed by those present, which sent the "true" early church into what is called the "Dark Ages". At this meeting the famous Apostles Creed was signed. Some religious historians feel that Constantine truly had the best interest of religion in his heart, and that he himself was a christian. However, others believe this was just a ruse to take over the church.

The Church of God does not consider itself a denomination, but rather as the true New Testament church continuing on as instituted by Christ on Mt. Hattin, a Divine Institution. The Church of God also believes,that each disruption that occurred, allowed it to stay true to her Biblical destiny as the One Fold. The departures from Theocratic government were not on thier part, but rather on the other churches part, allowing The Church of God to become more pure and as the Bible says "The Bride has herself ready"

- Ltwin (talk) 17:21, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1923? - 1943 ?[edit]

Dates do not fit. Father Ambrose J. TOMLINSON retired in 1923 ? Seems wrong. His sons, the elder Homer (how Christian a given name !!) and the younger Milton, began their quarrel as who should lead the Church in 1943 - so "1923" appears not to be correct.

Nuremberg, Bavaria

Ángel.García2001 131.188.3.21 (talk) 17:14, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]