Talk:Hotline

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ÓUh, Hotline is not p2p, it's very definitely client-server in architecture. its not just that its call someones phone thinks its time to call hotline phone today — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.99.32.5 (talk) 19:32, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

re: hotline not P2P

=> why has it been removed instead of corrected then ? Should I add it back ? (no i didn't put it initially)

disambig

I've added a disabig link to Hotline Connect. I'm not the person who removed the Hotline Connect stuff, but I agree that it doesn't belong on the body of this article. It's not really a 'hotline' in the sense used in this article, but a distinct topic with a similar name. --Eloil 07:09, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Hotline is DEAD. The Company went belly up, the software is outdated, and the network has porn and bad piracy only. Why do insist on pushing this crap?

Because Hotline was a very important development. We don't remove the Second World War from Wikipedia just because it's over. Furthermore, there are still many Hotline servers running to this day, many of which are not "porn and bad piracy only", there is a community of programmers who continue to develop software based around Hotline. John Lunney 15:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Format?

This page is formatted in a totally different way from most disambig pages. Shouldn't each meaning be a short link to articles that hold the main text? Also, Hotline Connect should be here. It is irrelevant that the network is mostly defunct. This is an encyclopedia, not (as the previous poster seems to think) an advertisement. Strait 04:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

"Hotline connect" is just an insignificant product among millions that use the term “hotline” on its name, plus there is nothing special, or relevant about it. Moreover it’s not even related to what a “hotline” is.

From music bands to movies to millions of services make use of the word "hotline". A simple search in Yahoo.com would yield about 37,200,000 instances for the word "hotline".

Do you believe that each product or service that uses "hotline" as part of its name should be here?

It is irrelevant to the definition, and it is obvious you are just desperate to push this lousy product.

Merge with 'batphone'

This is a joke, right? Kransky 13:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Bat phone into Hotline

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To not merge, given that this is a distinct topic warranting separate coverage. Klbrain (talk) 07:59, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

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I think it's clear that while the neologism "batphone" gets used in various places, the idea would be better referred to as a "private hotline". A large portion of the article is taken up by random examples where the term "batphone" was used to inflate its notability. If the irrelevant information was pared down, it could easily fit in its own section in the hotline article about both private hotlines and so-called batphones, something I supported in the article's failed AfD. Note that this is not suggesting the idea of a batphone is not notable, just that there is too much of an overlap. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:13, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose merge. Agree that the Hotline page requires more work and updating, and that there is some overlap between the two concepts, but the reality is that the two terms have forked over time. The term "bat phone" is now widely used to mean a mobile device with a "private" number that is only given out to select few individuals; this is different from a "hotline" and the two should not be confounded. There actually is extensive literature around the use of "Hotlines" particularly in business and customer service, that is distinct from "bat phone" and should definitely be incorporated into this Hotline page as well. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:16, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

  @Cielquiparle: Perhaps, but there are plenty of professed uses within the article itself that are much more similar to dedicated hotlines. A dedicated hotline was how the original Batphone was used as well, so it in no way solely refers to a private telephone number. Plus, in the age of cellular phones, hotlines where there is no number dialing process are no longer as feasible, so it's more something that was forced to be done. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:11, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose While there is some overlap I think there is enough material that a stand-alone article makes sense and making the topic a sub-section within Hotline might be akwardly large. Daranios (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

  @Daranios: Much of the material is just WP:INDISCRIMINATE listing every time the term "bat phone" is used by a media outlet. It essentially says the same thing, that bat phones are private phones. One example of a part that is really stretching for relevance is "In 2002, in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, the Business Roundtable, an association of 150 CEOs, announced that it was developing a secure communications network [...] billed as a "CEO 'Batphone' project" by InformationWeek". This is literally just a single metaphor by one journalist and wasn't even used by the project's creators to describe it. Such information can be pared down or removed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:12, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

  • Oppose merge if people wanted to call it a dedicated hotline they would do so; the use of bat-phone is distinct in that it connotes Bat Signal and humorously conveys a sense of importance that may or may not be warranted by the calls themselves and the actual problem-solving power of the recipient. I think this, like red telephone, is a specific and distinct phrase that warrants coverage linguistically and conceptually even if it is not practically distinct from a dedicated hotline. jengod (talk) 14:37, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

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