Talk:Trajan's Column

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I wasn't certain about the precise height. Indeed this source agrees with the 38-metre number: http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=75072&tocid=0&query=trajan (I didn't have any authoritative sources to check with when I wrote that bit.) :-)

Btw, other results in a brief Google search seem to yield only approximate numbers in the order of 30 metres or 100 feet.

--abhi 10:20, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Edited for readability[edit]

I've moved the translation up a little, block-formatted the inscription text and added some whitespace. I don't know how much better it is now. Does it work? --abhi 13:44, 2005 Jan 19 (UTC)

It looks better if you take the image from the left but i have left it to the page creator to do. --Gabor 14:35, 2006 Apr 10 (GMT)

Possible links to further online images[edit]

I recently had an email exchange with someone who was looking for the best available photographic representation of the column (print or online). It looks like the most comprehensive online photos are at http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Places/Europe/Italy/Lazio/Roma/Rome/Trajans_Column/home.html. ~~Possibly should be added to the external links, although (as my correspondent wrote) the photos are a bit dark.~~

He also writes:

There is a book for sale by Radu Vulpe and a forthcoming CD both published by CIMEC, but when you go to their website there is no mention of the CD and the book doesn't seem to have sufficient photographic images to cover the entire column, even though he is credited as having taken a complete photographic record of the castings in one of the Romanian museums.

http://www.cimec.ro/DespreCIMEC/e_OfertaPublicatii.htm

There is also a great site at http://www.stoa.org/trajan/, but with drawings rather than photos~~, which we should certainly link; I will do so.~~ - Jmabel | Talk 18:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aha! These are already linked, this person was writing me about precisely what we already link to. - Jmabel | Talk 18:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's an excellent photograph already on Wikipedia, which I added today to the "Inscriptions" section. Might someone help me with the formatting? It's appearing in between sections, and looks messy.

File:Trajan inscription duotone.jpg Noboswell (talk) 19:52, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AD or BC?[edit]

You might want to clairfy if this Is B.C. or A.D. just listing the year doesn't help for the casual reader. - el question

Clicking on the link directs to the AD year. If the year is not given, then it is assumed to be AD. I may clarify this, though. --Grimhelm 15:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Monument to genocide?[edit]

I've heard that the column itself shows Trajan's victory as the 'extermination' of the Dacians, making it the worlds only monument celebrating a self-proclaimed genocide. Is this true? If so, it ought to be recognised in the article. M-Henry (talk) 11:19, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Location Dot on Map[edit]

I just noticed today that the little blue dot showing where Trajan's column is (on the mini map of Rome) is showing the wrong location. The column is located at the North end of Trajan's forum, well to the right of where the dot currently is. A quick search for "trajan's column" on Google maps will show exactly where it should be.

Sorry I can't fix this myself, but I'm submitting this with my phone and there's only so much wiki editing I can do on a tiny screen! 87.18.215.9 (talk) 22:44, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unsure about the wording of this sentence![edit]

"Ancient coins indicate preliminary plans to top the column with a statue of a bird, probably an eagle,[3] but after construction, a statue of Trajan was put in place; this statue disappeared in the Middle Ages. On December 4, 1587, the top was crowned by Pope Sixtus V with a bronze figure of St. Peter, which remains to this day.[4]"

I am concerned by these words from the above; "...;this statue disappeared in the Middle Ages." Just how would anything of this size "disappear?" Did the author of this sentence really mean to say that to the best of his/her knowledge that there appears to be no mention of it during this period? Just maybe it did not exist then? Perhaps it is a product of the 16th century C.E.?96.19.147.40 (talk) 17:36, 24 April 2013 (UTC)Ronald L. Hughes[reply]

Weird mock sociology?[edit]

What is the purpose of the strange statement "In the male discourse of warfare, women are a visual trope that develops further the idea of subjugation by feminizing the foreign conquered"? This sounds like a weird form of feminist pseudo-sociology. It is not encyclopaedic, and should be deleted. Furthermore the women are traditionally interpreted as Dacian women torturing Roman soldiers. There are other women on the column - study indicates the "the figures are holding sacrificial offerings at a religious military ceremony – roles normally undertaken by boys. The six figures are clearly women or girls and Greene believes they depict the wives or daughters of senior officers."- New Scientist, ref http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trajans-column-sheds-light-womens-role-ancient-roman-army-1484082 Royalcourtier (talk) 21:07, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Scrutiny and re-write[edit]

Planning to take this on very soon. Just for now, posting link here to University of St. Andrews website on subject. Not intending this a inline source, as it's an in-house development which though seemingly intended to assist graduate (and possibly postgraduate) study/research/project development is probably on the margins of being an acceptable source because it's not been peer reviewed. BUT... it's an exepert, in-depth project of very wide scope, a pretty damn good resource & has an amazing photo collection, with well-referenced analysis of images and their sundry dimensions - meanings, rather. Here's the link. [1] Haploidavey (talk) 00:08, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Piece[edit]

If the piece was lost, how do we know that the text reads TANT<IS·OPER>IBVS and not TANT<AQVET>IBVS or TANT<RIQV>IBVS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.142.57.33 (talk) 13:11, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

External Links Not Working[edit]

It seems there are some external links to pages which are down:

https://www.rome-roma.net/it/colonna-traiana/progetto-traiano/integrale-de-la-colonne-trajane/ - doesn't reproduce pictures

https://sws.humanities.mcmaster.ca/~trajan/ - doesn't exist anymore

I'll try to add some newer high-quality sites. WorldCrusher (talk) 11:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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