Talk:Clarence S. Campbell Bowl

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I'd like to see someone write about the supposed 'curse' of lifting up the bowl? I don't really remember exactly what happened to spur that one. Did have something with Trevor Linden lifting it up and dropping the lid? Or did he lift it up in spite of the 'curse'. Marcus1060 07:55, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As a Red Wing fan, I'm pretty I've seen Steve Yzerman lift the bowl up when the Wings have won the conference title. The Prince of Wales Trophy seems to be more consistently shunned. 69.137.220.179 03:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Depends on the year. You bring up the example of Mr. Yzerman; in 1995 he made quite a demonstration of winning the Campbell Bowl and was criticized when the team was swept by NJ; in 1998 he skated off the ice basically holding the trophy with one arm at his side as though he planned on throwing it in a trash receptacle in the locker room; in 2002, he raised it above his head and celebrated in a reserved but noticeable fashion. I'm not sure that there's any generalizable comment to be made about any kind of "jinx," and it's funny you mention an interesting case study of one man who exhibited the entire spectrum of reactions to the trophy.

In 2003 Paul Kariya refused to touch the Bowl while ScottStevens picked up the Prince of Wales Trophy and skated off with it. And who won the Cup? The Devils did. Goes to show the superstitions are stupid. I watched when Vancouver won the West, they called it the Clarence Campbell TROPHY Did they suddenly change the name of it?MrNWA4Life 22:16, 4 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.202.119.152 (talk) [reply]

Shift in Criteria[edit]

This might demand a separate article about the Campbell/Western Conference, but I would like to see the list of teams that would have won the trophy had the criteria not been changed (or, alternatively, if the present criteria had been in effect all along).

As for the current reorganization of the chart, I think it was better when we grouped the two regular season champion lists into one, and the two playoff champion lists into one. It took me quite a while before I actually understood the boilerplate convoluted chronology of the trophy's meaning at the NHL website. Once I realized that the Campbell Conference was the successor to the Western Division, and that the Western Conference was the successor to the Campbell Conference, I realized the only thing that had really changed was the trophy switched from a regular season award to a postseason award, and that for the duration of its entire history it's been awarded to a team from the "same" institution, an institution that has gone through 3 names (Western Division, Campbell Conference, Western Conference). So I liked it better when the chart suggested that when it put "Western Division/Campbell Conference" and "Campbell/Western Conference."

For your information, we already have seperate articles on each conference and division. Please see Category:Historical National Hockey League Divisions for a list of them. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of this, but it seems (to me) like an unnecessary cross-reference to make a person go through. I am reasonably knowledgable on how the NHL operates and like I say, when I first was exposed to the NHL's description of the history of the Campbell Bowl (and the PoW Trophy) I was a bit befuddled before I realized there weren't quite as many jumps as it sounded, since a lot of the "changes" were just name changes and not substantive shifts in the criteria.

1878-1967[edit]

Does anyone know where this trophy was, and if it had ever been awarded for anything, between its construction in 1878 and its inception into the NHL in 1967? The article feels incomplete without addressing this ninety year time gap. Aspirex (talk) 04:53, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the only reliable sources I have seen just merely state where and when the piece was made, but not its physical history or where it came from before the league obtained it. The closest I have seen is this forum thread, where posters compare the Campbell Bowl to other similar decorated cups, but even they do not have any information on the Campbell Bowl's physical history. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:23, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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2021[edit]

In mid-May 2021, the league had announced that with the suspension of conferences because of COVID-19, both conference trophies would not be awarded this season.[1][2] Now in June that the 2021 Semifinals are now known, that the Canadiens will face the Knights and the Islanders will go against the Lightning, the NHL PR dept is now saying that they will be presented after all.[3][4] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It should also be reiterated here (for WP:CONSENSUS purposes) that the 2021 award was NOT for a conference championship per the per the NHL, it was awarded to the semifinals winner: "Because of temporary divisional realignment due to COVID-19 this season, the third round of the playoffs was renamed the semifinals, instead of the conference finals." Just as a pointer for the IP edit war going on at Montreal Canadiens. Yosemiter (talk) 16:01, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]