Talk:Long John Silver's

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Wiping[edit]

It looks like the article has now been almost entirely wiped by user Mythdon, probably in the name of citations. This seems a bit excessive, since the information seemed mostly verifiable and useful. Can't anyone confirm a link to the novel by Robert Louis Stevenson? 76.109.96.77 (talk) 20:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relevance[edit]

Is this kind of article really appropriate/relevant/useful? I'm concerned about people using Wikipedia to advertise their products for free, and this kind of article seems to invite that sort of useage. I could be wrong, of course. :) -- April

Without having read the article (yet), I would say that articles about businesses are useful. I would like to know the history of Long John Silver's or Burger King. How did it get started? How big is it? Where are the restaurants? What is their franchising policy?
I would not like to see today's menu, or a link to their 877-FAST delivery website; one tasteful External Link to the offical company website would be fine, though.
Now I'm going to read the article. Ed Poor, Thursday, March 28, 2002
Okay, I read it. It's stubby (looks like my typical stub!!), but with a little fleshing out will turn into a fine, useful article. There's nothing in it that needs to be deleted; the problem is that it's too short. Ed Poor, Thursday, March 28, 2002

A mystery[edit]

I went into a LJS in Orange County, California, and found tht it served Coca-Cola beverages. I thought all Yum! Brand restaurants had a master supply agreement with Pepsi. Worth a thought or two. knoodelhed 07:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ive worked at an ljs in san antonio, texas for the past 5 years and i can tell you that every single one has coca-cola bevereges.
I worked at LJS. We served Coca~Cola products, while KFC and Pizza Hut sold Pepsi products. PrometheusX303 19:46, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are many factors that have to deal with this issue. Is your LJS company owned or privately owned (see Franchise)? What are the fast food chains around your LJS selling drink wise? What does your region of the United States prefer? I know that in McKinney, Texas the LJS is company owned and sells Pepsi. That being said, we had Coca-Cola for a long time.

487,000 Employees[edit]

Somehow I doubt that statistic.

"Deep fried" say it![edit]

Does anyone else find it odd that this article contains none of the following words: deep, fried, fat, batter, dipped, oil? Harvard Birdman 00:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it has almost no discussion of the food whatsoever. The article is almost entirely about the business. The lede does describe the cuisine as fish and chips, and the topic sentence for that article contains several of the words you list. -- Coneslayer 15:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy[edit]

"The restaurant chain was the subject of some controversy in the late 1990s for a commercial in which a police officer decided not to write a ticket to a motorist who gave him a Long John Silver's fish sandwich. Many police organizations objected to the commercial on the grounds that it depicted a police officer taking a bribe."

Does this really need to be there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.85.232.249 (talk) 00:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

Yet again, I have removed the unsourced content on this article. Until there are sources, I feel the content should be excluded. I request that someone find sources if they wish for that content to remain on this article. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 04:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is not how WP works. If you feel the content needs citations, then cite it. The history is fairly accurate, and your deletion of the citation to the company web site was also wrong. Take the time to do it right instead of insulting the other contributors by blanking their work. Your blanking of the article constitutes vandalism and is inappropriate. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 04:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was not insulting the other contributors and I was not vandalizing. Just because I'm blanking other editors work doesn't mean that I'm insulting them. If I was insulting them, then my edit summaries would be such as "provide sources, idiot". If I was vandalizing, I would have blanked the entire page and I would not have provided an edit summary. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:04, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know you are not insulting them deliberately, but what you are doing is improper as you are ignoring the policies of WP which angers other contributors. In cases like this it is wrong to blank the content because it is not cited; the proper procedure would be to cite it - most of the information is freely available online - and remove the remainder afterwords. From my research on the KFC, Taco Bell, A&W, etc articles I have found that most of the information in this article is correct and accurate. I have been working on several other things on WP and have not been able to get back to this particular article in the Yum! Brands family of articles to cite it as needed. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 08:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What policies are you saying that I'm ignoring?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 08:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See the essay WP:DEMOLISH Rather than trashing it, go out and find sources. If not, look for someone who does know the subject matter. Or, if you're feeling particularly daring, go and research it, and become an expert on the subject matter yourself, so that you can find those sources much more easily. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 09:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But what policies?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 10:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand[edit]

From the referenced website (accessed 02/06/10) http://www.ljs.co.nz/wa.asp?idWebPage=18259 What connection does LJS have with Long John Silvers in the USA? None at all; LJS is a completely NZ founded, owned and operated business. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.154.151.185 (talk) 03:26, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Decreased Pirate Theme[edit]

Originally, the chain had a much larger focus on a pirate theme. For example, the chain used to offer small chicken drumsticks which they called "peg-legs", but now offer small chicken fingers known as "Chicken Planks".

Is going from "peg-legs" to "planks" really an example of moving away from the pirate theme? Planks (as in "walk the plank") are equally associated with pirates.

--12.19.148.66 (talk) 07:18, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

{{request edit}} The last paragraph of the History section is not correct. The citation does not lead to an actual article at USAToday. The link is broken. A search of USAToday yields no stories similar or with any of this information in it. Please delete this paragraph and the citation as it is false.

"Since divesting from Yum! Brands in October 2011, the Long John Silver's brand has seen a steady increase in sales, market share, and net worth. The brand currently is looking to upscale the brand with new stores opening in Fall 2013 through Winter 2014/2015 and a complete makeover of all franchise stores through 2016. However the chain is currently fighting a reputation that their food is unappealing, and the fact that half of their locations have been shut down at times by health departments.[4]"

Tl48xray (talk) 17:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Part of this was fixed some time ago. I have fixed the dead link and removed the above paragraph. -- Diannaa (talk) 01:19, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Menu Items[edit]

The company announced August 28, 2013 that the seafood chain has begun switching all U.S. restaurants to trans fat free cooking oil by the end of 2013. http://www.ljsilvers.com/news-events http://www.ljsilvers.com/images/pdfs/ljs-removes-trans-fat.pdf Tl48xray (talk) 17:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article has already been updated. Altamel (talk) 22:24, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Half of Locations shutdown by health departments?[edit]

"However the chain is currently fighting a reputation that their food is unappealing, and the fact that half of their locations have been shut down at times by health departments.[4]"

I find this hard to believe and wonder if this is vandalism. The cite given redirects to an unavailable host. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.171.20.8 (talk) 20:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Fates of Pre-2011 Restaurants[edit]

Does anyone know what's going to happen to any Long John Silver's restaurants that were built cobranded with KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, or A&W. Since Long John Silver's isn't owned by Yum! Brands anymore and A&W was bought by A Great American Brand. Will they close down all together? Would the restaurant become a self operating KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Hut/or A&W store? The restaurant in Kent, Ohio became a self Taco Bell restaurant. 24.147.1.197 (talk) 11:23, 5 July 2014 (UTC)Jacob Chesley[reply]

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Incorrect first store open date[edit]

The article states that the first LJS restaurant opened on April 16, 1969. The actual date of opening of the first unit was August 18, 1969. I include for reference a photo of a plaque hanging in the corporate office in Louisville.

Plaque at LJS headquarters
Plaque at LJS headquarters

Disclosure: I work for LJS' PR agency. Ask me questions or let me know if clarification is needed regarding this post. Tl48xray (talk) 19:44, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to August 18. — Maile (talk) 22:14, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Long John Silver's/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I reassessed this article for WPCompanies down to 'Start' due to a lack of inline citations. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 04:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 04:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 22:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

2016/06/06 Edit[edit]

I removed the following: "Long John Silver's had only two New York City locations (in Manhattan and eastern Queens), but they are no longer in business.[citation needed]". I felt the focus on one particular geographical location to be arbitrary and without notability except to those in that particular geographical location. One could easily add in the fact that there was only one store in Ames Iowa which is now closed as being notable if the same reasoning was valid. I believe that it is not.THX1136 (talk) 15:08, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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