Talk:Cécile Chaminade

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Article originally gave birth year as 1861. Grove says 1857 and I decided to go with the Grove. Dmetric 19:04, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

All the CDs I have list 1857 as well. Probably just a transcribing error or misprint. Melodia Chaconne 19:40, 9 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

no, it's not just an error. back in those days (and even today), a lot of women lied about their age. there are several other women composers who have a birthday discrepancy of several years. Beth 17:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chaminade, Concertino for flute[edit]

The story about the Concertino being written for a male flautist whom Chaminade was in love with seems to me to be improbable. It is a documented fact that this piece was the 1902 Concours piece at the Paris Conservatoire, and these pieces were generally commissioned. I have emailed the Paris Conservatoire to see if anyone there can research into the commissioning records from more than 100 years ago, and will forward whatever information they give me, if any. They would be the primary source here.

The only way both stories can be true is if Chaminade used an old piece to fulfill the commission from the Conservatoire. This also seems unlikely, since she wrote nothing else for the flute, and it would be quite a coincidence to get a commission for an instrumental piece for which you just happen to have something lying around. Becky Steltzner, Head of Woodwind Studies, SA College of Music, University of Cape Town Steltzner 09:29, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As no more information has come to light about this anecdote, I've removed it. --Blisco 10:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Death date[edit]

April 13

"The Romantic Period". Women & music : a history. Bloomington IN: Indiana University Press. 1991. p. 128. ISBN 0253343216. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)
Slonimsky, Nicolas (1997). Baker's biographical dictionary of twentieth-century classical musicians (9th (1992), reprinted ed.). New York: Schirmer Books. p. 228. ISBN 9780028712710. Retrieved 12 February 2022.

April 13 or 18

Anne Commire; Deborah Klezmer (1999). Women in world history : a biographical encyclopedia. Waterford, CT: Yorkin Publications. p. 597. Retrieved 12 February 2022.

April 18

"Cecile Chaminade, 86, French Composer, Dead" (Newspapers.com). The Evening Sun. Hanover PA. Associated Press. 18 April 1944. Retrieved 12 February 2022. {{cite news}}: Check |archive-url= value (help)
"French composer dies" (Newspapers.com). Medford Mail Tribune. Medford OR. 19 April 1944. p. 8. Retrieved 12 February 2022.
Cooke, Dr. James Francis, ed. (June 1944). "Vale Chaminade". The Etude: music magazine. 62 (6). Theodore Presser Company: 332. Retrieved 12 February 2022. ...and died at Monte Carlo. This was reported by the Paris radio on April 18, 1944.
Slonimsky, Nicolas (November–December 1946). Davis, Ennis; Tanner, Jean (eds.). "Pitfalls of Musical Chronology". The Music Journal. 4 (6). New York NY: The Music Journal Co.: 49. Retrieved 12 February 2022.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: date format (link)
- This is an article specifically about research into the confirmation and accuracy of birth and dates in Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians and other publications, and how editors can't afford the time to fact check, leading to numerous mistakes.
- Chaminade's death date isn't presented in the context of mistakes, but rather in a section noting people relevant to classical music, who died during the years of the Second World War.
Benjamin Hadley; Michael Steinberg; George Gelles (1980). Britannica book of music. Garden City NY: Doubleday/Britannica Books. p. 170. Retrieved 12 February 2022.
Rehrig, William H. (1991). The heritage encyclopedia of band music : composers and their music. Westerville OH: Integrity Press. p. 137. ISBN 0918048087. Retrieved 12 February 2022.
"Chaminade, Cécile, 1857-1944". Library of Congress. Washington DC. 16 March 2020. Retrieved 12 February 2022.

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No date

Contrary to some cemetery indexing websites, Chaminade's tombstone in Paris does not list a date, only a year.
Find A Grave claims that Chaminade has a tombstone at Cimetière de Monaco, but offers no evidence that a stone remains; she was reinterred, according to one source.

Not available digitally for confirmation