Talk:Penn Singers

This article was nominated for deletion on 4 October 2010 (UTC). The result of the discussion was merge to Student life at the University of Pennsylvania.

This article was nominated for deletion on 24 Jan 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Not the only one[edit]

The only collegiate group in America to have performed all but one Gilbert and Sullivan show? Can this be independently verified somehow? It sounds unlikely. AJD 01:36, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

No, it is not true. I know of several. UMGASS (the oldest collegiate G&S Society in the US, which has performed all the G&S shows) is certainly more notable than Penn Singers, and it does not have a Wiki article. I do not believe that college theatre groups should have a Wiki page separate from their universities' page. Otherwise every college theatre group would have a Wiki page. They just aren't notable. See WP:ORG and WP:MUS. Ssilvers 17:11, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

IMO, the accomplishments of this group should be added to the discussion of various groups who contribute to the cultural life of U. of P. on the U. of P. entry. -- Ssilvers 23:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do see some sense in merging, as I see nothing which indicates how this troupe passes WP:MUSIC. Sources cited indicate purely local interest. It is not signed, and there are no nation-wide tours, nor charted hit singles or albums. Ohconfucius 08:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prod tag[edit]

I restored the Prod tag. If you want to remove the tag on the grounds that an AfD is better, start the AfD before removing the tag. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What? That's not how proposed deletion works. Anyone is allowed to contest a proposed deletion for any reason, without any obligation to start an AfD. Furthermore, this article has already been nominated for deletion, so isn't eligible for a prod. Jfire (talk) 18:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article could be put up again for deletion via AFD, or it could be proposed for merger withtharticle on the university, but it is absolutely not eligible for PROD since it has previously been through AFD and survived as "No consensus." There is no need to start an AFD before removing the PROD tag. My response to the AFD was "Weak keep" since there were several references from campus papers and the like, but I wanted to see one or more off-campus independent and reliable sources with substantial coverage. Edison (talk) 19:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A year has gone by, and no such refs have been offered. I was merely noting that the reason given for removal of the tag was that the remover said the article should be put up for AfD instead. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I checked Newspaperarchive.com and only found a number of directory-type listings of upcoming performances over the years, without any substantive reviews or discussion, for what that's worth. Edison (talk) 22:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]