Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/George Fox
George Fox[edit]
Some amazing work by AlexG on this important historical figure. Full of good info. Quadell (talk) 03:12, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
- Acquiesce — Good article. --Blade Hirato 04:27, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Support. • Benc • 06:49, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Support. Informative, but I have some reservations.
- Frequently, the prose seems rather old-fashioned, presumably a residue or its origin in the 1914 Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia - for example 'he had begun to regard their conduct, in particular the drinking of healths, with dismay', and 'He brooded particularly on the temptation of Christ'.
The caption on the Oliver Cromwell image should be changed. The bit about being a dictator is POV, but more importantly not relevant to this article. It would be better if the caption said something about how Cromwell had met Fox and came close to finding a kindred spirit - possibly removig persecution of Quakers.-- Solipsist 07:15, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- (Support, if I'm allowed.) Thanks to Quadell for picking up on this page only two hours after my expansion spree. Solipsist has some good points and I will try to de-POV it a bit.
My biggest worry is making sure that all of Fox's beliefs are labelled as such, rather than being presented as fact. The residual S-H text does have such phrases as "professing the same faith in the spirituality of true religion", which read oddly.--AlexG 11:57, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC) No longer. AlexG 12:47, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC) - Support, good writeup. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:33, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Very good, but one issue: shouldn't the quotations give citations? -- Jmabel 10:24, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)
- How specific a citation is needed? That is, is it OK to say somewhere "most quotations from Fox's journal", or does each need a chapter/page reference?
(I'll try to track down where the Ellwood and Penn remarks come from, other than "the S-H Encyclopedia" :-) .)--AlexG 12:47, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)- I've added some in-text references now. Most are to the 1908 etext, which helpfully already has anchors at useful places. Journal editions do vary in inclusion and order of material, so I think this is reasonable for readers wanting context. I've also put in references to Quaker Faith and Practice, as well as the Marsh book. While Marsh is pretty rare, it's still the work I used to help write those bits. AlexG 19:16, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Support. Excellent work! Zerbey 17:11, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Support, but I'd like to see perhaps a section on his writings- I admit I only skimmed quickly, so if I missed it, I apologize (too much homework), but he does have a substantial body of work out there, that didn't really seem to be extensively mentioned. Lyellin 02:54, Sep 14, 2004 (UTC)
- I've now added to the "Death and legacy" section some more about the journal and letters, and given a few tweaks elsewhere. AlexG 15:20, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)