Talk:Ixania
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Fictional country from a book that doesn't even have an article. What little content there is could be moved to one of the two lists mentioned in the article. DCEdwards1966 16:34, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is work in progress. What is the difference between the article on Ixania—a short article instead of a redirect for those looking for the placename—and those on Qwghlm, the Dominion of Melchizedek, or Pottsylvania? If you think we don't need an article on Ambler's The Dark Frontier please say so and I will reconsider publishing it or adding anything to this text here. <KF> 17:08, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
- If you write an article about the book, you can put information about Ixania there. It doesn't need its own article. DCEdwards1966 19:28, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
- What exactly would be the problem if Ixania did have its own article? I'm thinking of someone who remembers the name but can't place it. They might type "Ixania" into Wikipedia's search function, and they would get a result (which would also be pointing to a discussion of the novel). Don't tell me a redirect to The Dark Frontier will do because I would only repeat my initial question. <KF> 19:57, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
- But it has no extra information beyond what is included in the Dark Frontier article. That's what redirects are for. Someone who types in "Ixania" because they can't place it is delivered the whole context in a flash. Neat huh? Dr Zen 02:25, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- What exactly would be the problem if Ixania did have its own article? I'm thinking of someone who remembers the name but can't place it. They might type "Ixania" into Wikipedia's search function, and they would get a result (which would also be pointing to a discussion of the novel). Don't tell me a redirect to The Dark Frontier will do because I would only repeat my initial question. <KF> 19:57, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
- If you write an article about the book, you can put information about Ixania there. It doesn't need its own article. DCEdwards1966 19:28, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep—Trevor Caira 21:07, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. It's a stub, but it's doing no harm. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 21:47, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep agreeing with Dante. I like the idea of 'explain something and point to its wider context' although it doesn't seem to be what most people want around here. Kappa 00:08, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect, to The Dark Frontier if that gets written or to one of the two current lists if it doesn't. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:11, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if I failed to make myself understood. Normally I finish an article and then post it. Just once I did it the other way round. As with all the other fictional places (have a look at their respective articles), there is a lot more to say than what the article contains at the moment. If, as Antaeus Feldspar suggests, this stub is "merged and redirected", the article on Ixania will not get written. Nipping something in the bud usually does not encourage (prospective) authors from joining in or carrying on. <KF> 01:42, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
- What is there to say about it though? A good method is to begin a section in the Dark Frontier article titled "Ixania". No one is going to write about Ixania who doesn't know the novel, hey? If the section grows large, then break it out.Dr Zen 02:25, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if I failed to make myself understood. Normally I finish an article and then post it. Just once I did it the other way round. As with all the other fictional places (have a look at their respective articles), there is a lot more to say than what the article contains at the moment. If, as Antaeus Feldspar suggests, this stub is "merged and redirected", the article on Ixania will not get written. Nipping something in the bud usually does not encourage (prospective) authors from joining in or carrying on. <KF> 01:42, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
- Okay, I give up, whether some of you are trolls or not. I'm actually embarrassed to see someone with such a noble handle ("Dr Zen") write such a pointless comment which shows me he/she has not bothered to understand mine. If discouraging people is your policy, go ahead. <KF> 08:15, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
- KF, the point here is that the information fits in better with the main article. Even thought Wikipedia is not paper, we don't need to have separarte articles on related subjects. Oh ya, merge with The Dark Fronter and redirect. hfool 23:36, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- This is an unworthy spectacle, and I don't want to have a part in it. The "troll" bit was suggested on, and is therefore an allusion to, one of your user pages ("I'm not a troll"—now who starts a user page that way?). Whoever advocates "merge and redirect" has been prevented from realising that there is nothing to merge. Actually, there is more about Ixania in the article on the novel than in the article on Ixania. I could say a lot more here, for example generally about entries on fictional places, but why should I try and write about things no one is interested in. <KF> 19:11, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)
- One problem with leaving a stub the way it was is that people won't realise there is more information available. They may even waste their time expanding the stub. Kappa 04:59, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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