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Whosyourjudas (talk) 03:01, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Disambiguations

Nice work with the hurricane disambiguations. I added {{hurricane disambig}} to just about all of those articles, but I've hardly looked at them since...they need a good cleanup. You may want to go over to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones to explain what your overall plan is and get some feedback on it. Jdorje 06:25, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. I went to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones and wrote my comment about disambiguations and some typhoons (I think Maemi is a notable storm). --HERB 13:39, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

hurricane template

For category talk pages, use {{hurricane|class=}} to avoid classification of the page. See Category:Unassessed hurricane articles. Jdorje 03:14, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. I've done the work to avoid classification of category talk pages of typhoon seasons. HERB 05:12, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Please read WP:MOSDAB#The disambig notice. Thanks Stephenb (Talk) 09:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Typhoon Babe

Your article on Typhoon Babe is currently a Start-Class hurricane article, and is being proposed for a merge. If you wish to to keep the article, you should state your thoughts on the article's talk page, or consider expanding the article. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Hurricane Gustav

There is no reason to bold certain hurricanes. It implies that some are of more importance than others. And the recency of a hurricane also does not require bolding. See WP:RECENT. Ward3001 (talk) 00:02, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Laying pipes

Hi HERB

You may have noticed I undid a few piped links you have created. Like [1]

While piping is often using when dealing with disambiguation pages, or the occasioanl hidden pipe - when dealing with listed items that may eventually go on to develop into individual articles, it can make sense to leave them as unpiped links to REDIRECTS.

Cyclone Wanda clicks through to Cyclone_Wanda#Cyclone_Wanda_(1974) anyway. Nothing else is really known as "Cyclone Wanda", and perhaps one day there will be enough information that Cyclone Wanda can be developed into its own page. If all the Cyclone Wanda links are piped links, that means some other editor (or yourself) will have to go back and undo each and everyone of those pipes. Not only have you spent more energy actually creating pipes, but there is a potential to create futher work for wikipedians. And wikipedians don't like extra work (or do they?)

Just so you know I'm not just taliking out my ass, there is a dot point at WP:PIPE that mentions this. Linking to redirects is a useful tool. Redirects are there for reasons beyond helping redirect searches.--ZayZayEM (talk) 01:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: See also links

You've been changing the See also section in a lot of pages. Those links you've provided are also all redirects, but much longer than the ones replaced. (Also if they didn't have en dashes before, they should now or they will probably be moved by someone anyway.) Besides, I don't think you're supposed to have hidden wikilinks anymore.

I found it here: Piped links. Those should become articles in the future so it is better to use redirects (the shorter ones). Potapych (talk) 15:38, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Piped links are allowed. –Juliancolton ^{Happy Holidays} 16:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for comments

Thank you for comments. I learned some Wikipedia rules from some Wikipedians: disambiguations, piped links, etc. I'll study them more.--HERB (talk) 12:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:2008-09 South Pacific cyclone season

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Typhoon Designations

I've reverted your addition of designations to several typhoon articles as I'm currently trying to phase those out. Aside from the Philippine name, the JMA and JTWC #'s are almost entirely unnecessary within the article, and only the JTWC # warrants a brief mention in the meteo history. It's about the same as adding "(NHC Designation 01L)" to Hurricane Arthur's article. This is only for the English wiki, however, as in Japan the storms are referred to by number rather than their international name for some reason. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 11:04, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

But there are descriptions of designations in many other typhoon articles.--HERB (talk) 11:11, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Hence the "trying to phase out" part :) Cyclonebiskit (talk) 11:19, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Japanese people always use international designation (for example, 1408). So we want information of international designation.--HERB (talk) 14:33, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Typhoon Designations

The numbers are only used by Japan and nowhere else. This is the English Wikipedia where the main use is the international names. Therefore, the numbers belong on the Japanese Wikipedia and not the English Wikipedia. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 13:48, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

English Wikipedia and other language Wikipedia are for people of ALL the world. So please do not remove international designation !!--HERB (talk) 15:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Haiyan

You seem not to appreciate how disambiguation pages work. They are only meant to be aids in searching, not places for content. So unexplained codes (e.g. "T0121, 25W, Maring", none of which means anything to me) and details about retirement of the name don't belong. They really need explaining (what are the codes?, what season where?) but the disambiguation page is definitely not the place for such explanation, that should appear in the articles. Nor should it contain additional links to any explanation; there should be one link for each entry, one entry for each article linked.--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 23:27, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: Typhoons

The numbers are different between every country. They're not only using the JMA designation. They're only used within Japan and nowhere else. As for their use in the annual report, I can say the same about every agency. Most warning centers list their internal numbers within storm reports, it has no weight on the situation. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:22, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

That's all fine and dandy. We know they exist, yes. But are they useful to us? No, not at all. They're known almost entirely by their International Names which are issued by the JMA. The internal designations have no use on Wikipedia when people are searching for the storm by its name, not number. A quick google search will show just how useless they are. Searching "typhoon 1409" yields 189 hits while "typhoon rammasun" gives 3,610,000 hits. They're not used by English speakers, thus they have no use on the English Wikipedia. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:34, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

I think international encyclopedia - Wikipedia should not neglect the minority.--HERB (talk) 14:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia, however. The numbers are perfectly fine to be used on the Japanese Wikipedia, but the vast majority of users on this Wiki have no knowledge/need for them. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:42, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Indeed, this is the English Wikipedia. But English Wikipedia is regarded as the international Wikipedia, because English is the most major language. So I want wikipedians to write various information about typhoons in English Wikipedia.--HERB (talk) 14:50, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) came up with a reasonable compromise, in my opinion. You can keep the international designation, but only as a brief mention in the meteorological history of articles when the storms are named, not in the lead. It would be something along the lines of "the JMA assigned designated the storm as Tropical Storm Rammasun (1409)" or such. This would be the only mention of the number since, as I've stated many times, it's essentially useless on the English Wiki, but I'm honestly tired of fighting you over this and I just want this to be over with. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:15, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Just confirming what CB said. I agree there is no real point to the number, just as there's no need to include AL02009 or whatever in Atlantic articles. Since most basins number TD's, then we usually mention it in prose what number storm it was (like TD 2 or whatever), so that if we want to include the number in the WPAC, it's best to do it in the MH, not in the lead. There, it just clutters the opening and would likely overwhelm the reader. The reader doesn't really know or care what those numbers are, just what the typhoon is named, since this is the English wiki. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Cyclonebiskit (talk · contribs), Hurricanehink (talk · contribs), thank you for your advice. First, I updated Typhoon Rammasun (2014): described JMA designation not in the lead but in the Meteorological history.--HERB (talk) 09:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello, HERB. I agree with Cyclonebiskit (talk · contribs) here. But, I was thinking you can put the JMA's designation for only important and notable storms like Haiyan, Thelma, Tip etc. Typhoon2013 (talk) 06:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

External links

Please stop adding links that are already in the references. Thank you.—CycloneIsaac (Talk) 16:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

OK. But I want to add JMA designation to External links. --HERB (talk) 21:19, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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