Category talk:Châteaux in France

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I've moved all of the châteaux into the better category Category:Castles in France, completely parallel to Castles in other countries. Now I'm well aware that "château" has several meanings (castle, keep/dungeon, manor house, vineyard), plus the cultural rayonnement of France, that have caused this lack of parallelism, leading in turn to "châteaux" in Oregon and so on — but it's intrinsically POV; and I'll be editing Château to clarify the situation.

A word also on the names of some — most — of these castles. Noone refers to, for example, "Château Chenonceau": the French always refer to "Château DE Chenonceau", and of course in English, it's "Chenonceau Castle" or, is one is being pretentious, "Chenonceau Château".

This isn't true of some on the list (and I bet it's why the naming got systematized the way it was): wine domains are usually without the DE, as in the correct forms "Château Pétrus", "Château Mouton Rothschild", etc. I'm renaming the articles as I go; one or two have redirects in the wrong direction: I'll be contacting an administrator like we're supposed to. — Bill 16:14, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Please note that this category is deliberately not called Category:Castles in France[edit]

Category:Castles in France has now been renamed to Category:Châteaux in France, following a discussion on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 April 4. Jamie Mercer 21:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]